> Skilled building trades like carpentry require at least basic algebra and geometry. Great. Have that be part of carpentry training. Again, this type of train

> Skilled building trades like carpentry require at least basic algebra and geometry. Great. Have that be part of carpentry training. Again, this type of training should be cheap/free and of high quality. I imagine a class of carpenters in training would be an incredible class to teach. > Failure to teach science effectively leads to ignorant voters who believe that anthropogenic global climate change and evolution through natural selection are lies. I guess your wiggle word there is "effectively". Note that there are plenty of highly educated people who are ignorant voters, climate change deniers, and creationists. People seem to think that more and/or better education will change this -- it largely won't. What matters for most people is what their community (esp. family) believes. The escape velocity required to break from those community beliefs is extremely high and generally involves the learner leaving that community to join another. This is a human condition and is not likely to change. I personally think the best we can do is teach disciplinary approaches to topics such as science to everyone, and let them come to heir own conclusions. As a simple example, if a community of creationists are ever going to change, that change will come from within. Change will not come from consistent brow beatings from high-browed outsiders.