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I can't believe I am actually defending christianity here, but yes this is true. I am not religious and have just taken the humanistic parts of Jesus to heart n

by tyfon 9y ago

I can't believe I am actually defending christianity here, but yes this is true. I am not religious and have just taken the humanistic parts of Jesus to heart not the religious parts. However even in christianity it is god who will exact this punishment, not the people. He sais men is not to judge each other. I can't get this to fit with the revenge mentality either. For the record, the hell part is, in my opinion, one of the most glaring inconsistencies in the religion. God loves all.. but you will still burn in hell for eternity if you do not accept him/her/it blindly. I find that very sadistic and cruel.

joshuahedlund 9y ago
I feel it's worth noting that the doctrine of annihiliationism asserts that non-believers will simply be consumed by hell and cease to exist, with proponents asserting that the doctrine of eternal conscious torment is a mis-reading of the original text influenced by Western/Platonic notions of the immortal soul.
- tyfon 9y ago
  This is actually what I think will happen when I die, I will cease to exist. It is much better than being told that I will be tortured in hell forever :)
nrclark 9y ago
I always thought it was kind of fascinating to think about how much of Hell is actually early Catholic in origin. Most of the bible's descriptions of Hell come from the book of Revelation, which is basically just some guy's drug-trip 100 years after historical Jesus died. The apostles also talk about Hell a little bit, but not really with much description. And they were just people like anybody else. Historical Jesus barely talks about Hell at all in the bible, and when he does it's somewhat ambiguous whether or not he's talking about an actual literal trash dump not too far outside of Jerusalem's city limit (translation notes on this are fascinating). Most of the modern concept of Hell really comes from Revelation and from works of art/books written during long after the events of the Bible were supposed to take place.

by tyfon 9y ago

joshuahedlund 9y ago

I feel it's worth noting that the doctrine of annihiliationism asserts that non-believers will simply be consumed by hell and cease to exist, with proponents asserting that the doctrine of eternal conscious torment is a mis-reading of the original text influenced by Western/Platonic notions of the immortal soul.

tyfon 9y ago
This is actually what I think will happen when I die, I will cease to exist. It is much better than being told that I will be tortured in hell forever :)

nrclark 9y ago

I always thought it was kind of fascinating to think about how much of Hell is actually early Catholic in origin. Most of the bible's descriptions of Hell come from the book of Revelation, which is basically just some guy's drug-trip 100 years after historical Jesus died. The apostles also talk about Hell a little bit, but not really with much description. And they were just people like anybody else. Historical Jesus barely talks about Hell at all in the bible, and when he does it's somewhat ambiguous whether or not he's talking about an actual literal trash dump not too far outside of Jerusalem's city limit (translation notes on this are fascinating). Most of the modern concept of Hell really comes from Revelation and from works of art/books written during long after the events of the Bible were supposed to take place.