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How is it a fork of a closed source product, and how is the developer of said closed source product behind the curve of their own product?
by DiabloD3 9y ago
How is it a fork of a closed source product, and how is the developer of said closed source product behind the curve of their own product?
- kuschku 9y agoIntelliJ isn't closed source, it's on GitHub, under an open license. As are most of the premium IDE plugins from JetBrains.
- pjmlp 9y agoOnly the community edition code.
- kuschku 9y agoPlus 90% of the addons. Only a handful of them aren’t.
- pjmlp 9y agoSo how do you compile the add-ons that require the closed source part?
- kuschku 9y agoYou don’t, you don’t need them, and Android Studio doesn’t include them either. You can have all the features of Android Studio in all the languages I mentioned just with the open plugins.
- pjmlp 9y agoNo, because Google has changed the way wizards work, which means any plugin needs to be developed explicitly for Android Studio as well. As proof of this, the Flutter team just released a version of their plugins for Android Studio. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/flutter-dev/D6pvqM09y_c https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/flutter-dev/D6pvqM09... Android Studio also includes bits of CLion for example.
- kuschku 9y agoAre you deliberately trying to ignore what I’ve been saying? My argument was that you can take IntelliJ’s open edition, with its plugins for C++/C, etc, slightly modify it, and get the same functionality as you’d have in Android Studio for more languages than just Android.
- pjmlp 9y agoNo you are the one ignoring what I am saying, as apparently you are not doing Android development. 1 - InteliJ Android plugin is not the same as Android Studio, it lags a few versions behind; 2 - The free C and C++ plugins are not the same as the parts from CLion that Google integrated into Android Studio; 3 - Additionally the mixed Java/Kotlin and NDK debugging is also taken from CLion So if you want to be behind the curve of what Android developers use daily, by all means use pure InteliJ with the plugins you are suggesting.
- kuschku 9y ago> No you are the one ignoring what I am saying, as apparently you are not doing Android development. Great, you could’ve checked my profile, or googled who I am, but apparently you didn’t. Spoiler: I do. A lot. > 1 - InteliJ Android plugin is not the same as Android Studio, it lags a few versions behind; Which is irrelevant, because Android Studio itself is also splittered into several versions, and many devs simply use the beta, and others use IDEA directly, and yet others simply copied the plugin over. The plugin in IDEA Ultimate is up-to-date with the latest stable version of Android Studio, btw. > 2 - The free C and C++ plugins are not the same as the parts from CLion that Google integrated into Android Studio; No, but they differ insignificantly, I’ve been using both options daily, and both work just the same and fine. > 3 - Additionally the mixed Java/Kotlin and NDK debugging is also taken from CLion That’s something I don’t know anything about, as I mostly use a custom solution for that purpose.
- pjmlp 9y agoOk, fare enough. You win. :)
- pjmlp 9y agoEver heard about cooperation and developer agreements between companies?