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Google Play Store isn't open, control of that is key. It doesn't matter if the platform it's running on is "Microsoft Android" or something else - Google still

by murkle 9y ago

Google Play Store isn't open, control of that is key. It doesn't matter if the platform it's running on is "Microsoft Android" or something else - Google still controls the store

fenwick67 9y ago
Yes, but apps don't HAVE to use the Play store. Amazon, for example, has all its apps in a separate store because it doesn't like to play Google's games (the Amazon shopping app is not in the Play store because they don't want Google getting a slice of their profits). A similar strategy could theoretically work for MS.
- nunez 9y ago
  Bringing up your own play Store is devilishly hard due to first mover advantage. Every other App Store pales in comparison to Apple’s App Store and Google’s Play Store.
- yoz-y 9y ago
  Amazon does have its own store because it wants the app profits for themselves, however they do have shopping, kindle, prime and so on apps in the Play Store[1]. I suppose that Play Store has the same rules as the Apple App store. That is, you can have your own checkout and payment system as long as you sell things that are not for content that you consume in the application. This is why Uber and Amazon and other shopping apps do not have to share the profits, but for example Audible does not sell books through their iOS app and microsoft actually pays 30% to apple (now probably 15) for any Office subscription people get when getting it from the app. [1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazon.mShop.android.shopping https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazon.mSh...
  - chokolad 9y ago
    You can't buy books via Kindle app on iPhone. You have to manually open Safari, go to amazon site and buy a book there. I believe it's exactly because Amazon does not want to give Apple the cut of the book profit.
    - rjmunro 9y ago
      It's because Apple won't let you do in app purchases that don't use their payments system, and if you use their payments system, they take a 30% cut. But we are talking about Google / Android, not Apple / iOS here.
    - yoz-y 9y ago
      Yes, because kindle books are considered content for the application. Its the same for Audible. But the original point was that there is no Amazon Store app on the Play store (which there is) and the other applications are there but crippled. It is perfectly reasonable for Amazon to not want to give a 30% cut on books to Apple. I wish there would be some exception for this kind of content in the stores.
- TallGuyShort 9y ago
  And as a user of several generations of Fires, Amazon's App Store has always been noticeably inadequate.

by murkle 9y ago

Google Play Store isn't open, control of that is key. It doesn't matter if the platform it's running on is "Microsoft Android" or something else - Google still controls the store

fenwick67 9y ago

Yes, but apps don't HAVE to use the Play store. Amazon, for example, has all its apps in a separate store because it doesn't like to play Google's games (the Amazon shopping app is not in the Play store because they don't want Google getting a slice of their profits). A similar strategy could theoretically work for MS.

nunez 9y ago
Bringing up your own play Store is devilishly hard due to first mover advantage. Every other App Store pales in comparison to Apple’s App Store and Google’s Play Store.
yoz-y 9y ago
Amazon does have its own store because it wants the app profits for themselves, however they do have shopping, kindle, prime and so on apps in the Play Store[1]. I suppose that Play Store has the same rules as the Apple App store. That is, you can have your own checkout and payment system as long as you sell things that are not for content that you consume in the application. This is why Uber and Amazon and other shopping apps do not have to share the profits, but for example Audible does not sell books through their iOS app and microsoft actually pays 30% to apple (now probably 15) for any Office subscription people get when getting it from the app. [1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazon.mShop.android.shopping https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazon.mSh...
- chokolad 9y ago
  You can't buy books via Kindle app on iPhone. You have to manually open Safari, go to amazon site and buy a book there. I believe it's exactly because Amazon does not want to give Apple the cut of the book profit.
  - rjmunro 9y ago
    It's because Apple won't let you do in app purchases that don't use their payments system, and if you use their payments system, they take a 30% cut. But we are talking about Google / Android, not Apple / iOS here.
  - yoz-y 9y ago
    Yes, because kindle books are considered content for the application. Its the same for Audible. But the original point was that there is no Amazon Store app on the Play store (which there is) and the other applications are there but crippled. It is perfectly reasonable for Amazon to not want to give a 30% cut on books to Apple. I wish there would be some exception for this kind of content in the stores.
TallGuyShort 9y ago
And as a user of several generations of Fires, Amazon's App Store has always been noticeably inadequate.