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> no declaration on the restaurant menu on where the meet comes from and what it may contain. I actually don't know what you mean here. Do restaurants normall

> no declaration on the restaurant menu on where the meet comes from and what it may contain. I actually don't know what you mean here. Do restaurants normally list the farm they get their meat from? Around here (Pittsburgh, PA) I don't think I've ever seen that, except at the "eat local" places, where it's basically their selling point, but they're not the norm.

jackhack 9y ago
Yes, country of origin. Did that beef come from China, Argentina, United States, or Switzerland? For instance, I do not eat eat oysters from China (due to their record of gross pollution) or japanese seafood after the Fukushima incident (which continues to poison the ocean).
- jimktrains2 9y ago
  > Fukushima incident (which continues to poison the ocean). More than all the coal plants and mines in the US?
  - jackhack 9y ago
    Yes. Orders of magnitude more. While it's commonly understood that coal-fired power plants release more radiation than (properly operated) nuclear plants per year, with Fukushima we are talking about a core meltdown and uncontrolled release for nearly a decade! We are talking about anywhere from 100 to 400 Tons of contaminated water per day. It is truly a man-made disaster being ignored. https://www.google.com/search?q=fukushima+tons+of+water+per+day https://www.google.com/search?q=fukushima+tons+of+water+per+... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/fukushima-radiation-has-contaminated-entire-pacific-ocean-and-its-going-get-worse http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/fukushima-radiation... https://www.rt.com/op-edge/376607-leakage-radiation-fukushima-japan/ https://www.rt.com/op-edge/376607-leakage-radiation-fukushim... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/11/world/asia/struggling-with-japans-nuclear-waste-six-years-after-disaster.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/11/world/asia/struggling-wit...
- kobeya 9y ago
  The oyster example makes sense, although it is pretty exceptional given shellfish are basically harbor water filters. The Japan fish prohibition seems like overreacting. The effect from Fukushima on fishing from the pacific would not be measurable and dwarfed by other concerns such as plastic and mercury. I have a hard time thinking of general reasons why you’d care of the meat was from, say, USA vs. New Zealand. Assuming you trust your local regulators that approved the meat for import.
  - sschueller 9y ago
    You are right about the meat origin. The only thing people really care about is if it local or foreign. The local laws are stricter than what the EU allows. Also how animals are kept.

jackhack 9y ago

Yes, country of origin. Did that beef come from China, Argentina, United States, or Switzerland? For instance, I do not eat eat oysters from China (due to their record of gross pollution) or japanese seafood after the Fukushima incident (which continues to poison the ocean).

jimktrains2 9y ago
> Fukushima incident (which continues to poison the ocean). More than all the coal plants and mines in the US?
- jackhack 9y ago
  Yes. Orders of magnitude more. While it's commonly understood that coal-fired power plants release more radiation than (properly operated) nuclear plants per year, with Fukushima we are talking about a core meltdown and uncontrolled release for nearly a decade! We are talking about anywhere from 100 to 400 Tons of contaminated water per day. It is truly a man-made disaster being ignored. https://www.google.com/search?q=fukushima+tons+of+water+per+day https://www.google.com/search?q=fukushima+tons+of+water+per+... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/fukushima-radiation-has-contaminated-entire-pacific-ocean-and-its-going-get-worse http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-02/fukushima-radiation... https://www.rt.com/op-edge/376607-leakage-radiation-fukushima-japan/ https://www.rt.com/op-edge/376607-leakage-radiation-fukushim... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/11/world/asia/struggling-with-japans-nuclear-waste-six-years-after-disaster.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/11/world/asia/struggling-wit...
kobeya 9y ago
The oyster example makes sense, although it is pretty exceptional given shellfish are basically harbor water filters. The Japan fish prohibition seems like overreacting. The effect from Fukushima on fishing from the pacific would not be measurable and dwarfed by other concerns such as plastic and mercury. I have a hard time thinking of general reasons why you’d care of the meat was from, say, USA vs. New Zealand. Assuming you trust your local regulators that approved the meat for import.
- sschueller 9y ago
  You are right about the meat origin. The only thing people really care about is if it local or foreign. The local laws are stricter than what the EU allows. Also how animals are kept.