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Exactly. "Never buy the first version of any new Apple product", whether hardware or OS, has been well-known for at least 10 years: https://www.engadget.com/200

Exactly. "Never buy the first version of any new Apple product", whether hardware or OS, has been well-known for at least 10 years: https://www.engadget.com/2006/06/03/why-first-generation-apple-products-suck/ https://www.engadget.com/2006/06/03/why-first-generation-app... (That said, I've found my first-gen Apple Watch to be a great product. First-gen iPad is a paperweight though...)

madeofpalk 9y ago
Never buy the first version of any new product
- jackhack 9y ago
  Mostly, that's true. Or at least understand you're on the edge. Cutting or bleeding, it's hard to say ahead of time but usually pretty obvious after a week of real-world use. I respect Apple, they take chances. Sometimes it pays off. Off the top of my head: Products where 1st generation was amazing: Apple ][ iPod Lisa iPhone Products where 1st gen was almost unusable, but v2+ was amazing: Macintosh (Amazing, but frequent disk swapping was an issue.) Messagepad (first gen soured the press and the public due to connectivity issues. Modem vs cellular.) DOA: Apple 3 (anyone else remember the service bulletin that asked users to slam it on the desk to reseat the chips?) Pippin
  - TheAceOfHearts 9y ago
    Original iPhone didn't have 3G, which many definitely considered to be a huge flaw. It also didn't have native applications.
    - r00fus 9y ago
      It's not a huge flaw, as the mobile 3G (esp. AT&T's) networks weren't that good in 2007. The fact that you could get (edge speed) unlimited internet for $20/iPhone was pretty amazing. Same for Palm/Verizon was $45 and more for 3G. Native apps showed up in jailbreaks which I installed literally months after the release. The app install process was unparalleled.
    - madeofpalk 9y ago
      Lacking features is not what the “don’t buy first version” people are talking about. They’ve warning against unknown bugs, not the obvious and known lack of 3G
- ShinTakuya 9y ago
  If nobody did then you wouldn't get a second generation since the product would fail. Better advice is never buy the first generation of a product until you see enough independent reviews.
  - madeofpalk 9y ago
    You're right. And I guess it should be mentioned that I usually buy the first of anything Apple makes (the AirPods are amazing!). I just thought it was worth pointing out that that quip usually is applied to more than just Apple. I guess its kind of a riff of the programming "never be the biggest user of x" mantra.

madeofpalk 9y ago

Never buy the first version of any new product

jackhack 9y ago
Mostly, that's true. Or at least understand you're on the edge. Cutting or bleeding, it's hard to say ahead of time but usually pretty obvious after a week of real-world use. I respect Apple, they take chances. Sometimes it pays off. Off the top of my head: Products where 1st generation was amazing: Apple ][ iPod Lisa iPhone Products where 1st gen was almost unusable, but v2+ was amazing: Macintosh (Amazing, but frequent disk swapping was an issue.) Messagepad (first gen soured the press and the public due to connectivity issues. Modem vs cellular.) DOA: Apple 3 (anyone else remember the service bulletin that asked users to slam it on the desk to reseat the chips?) Pippin
- TheAceOfHearts 9y ago
  Original iPhone didn't have 3G, which many definitely considered to be a huge flaw. It also didn't have native applications.
  - r00fus 9y ago
    It's not a huge flaw, as the mobile 3G (esp. AT&T's) networks weren't that good in 2007. The fact that you could get (edge speed) unlimited internet for $20/iPhone was pretty amazing. Same for Palm/Verizon was $45 and more for 3G. Native apps showed up in jailbreaks which I installed literally months after the release. The app install process was unparalleled.
  - madeofpalk 9y ago
    Lacking features is not what the “don’t buy first version” people are talking about. They’ve warning against unknown bugs, not the obvious and known lack of 3G
ShinTakuya 9y ago
If nobody did then you wouldn't get a second generation since the product would fail. Better advice is never buy the first generation of a product until you see enough independent reviews.
- madeofpalk 9y ago
  You're right. And I guess it should be mentioned that I usually buy the first of anything Apple makes (the AirPods are amazing!). I just thought it was worth pointing out that that quip usually is applied to more than just Apple. I guess its kind of a riff of the programming "never be the biggest user of x" mantra.