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It’s the same for graphic designers, make a logo and get paid once, no matter how large the company...
by sogen 9y ago
It’s the same for graphic designers, make a logo and get paid once, no matter how large the company...
- irrational 9y agoSometimes you get paid more than once. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2004273/Woman-designed-Nike-swoosh-explains-story-inception-40-years-ago.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2004273/Woman-design...
- sogen 9y agoOutlier, had her in my mind her when I was writing my previous response. That’s why Basecamp(37 signals) stopped doing graphic design.
- jacobush 9y agoBecause swoosh?
- irrational 9y agoThey stopped doing graphic design because one designer got 500 Nike stock shares?
- wlesieutre 9y agoSimilarly, Brooklyn Brewery’s branding was done for a 5% stake in the company back before they had any money https://www.fastcodesign.com/3059055/the-true-story-of-milton-glasers-greatest-client https://www.fastcodesign.com/3059055/the-true-story-of-milto...
- hbosch 9y agoSame for anyone who works on contract, in any industry. Designers will obviously charge more money depending on the size and budget of the client...
- WalterBright 9y agoI was an engineer at Boeing, designing airplane parts. Was I ripped off because I don't get an ongoing royalty for every 757 sold? Engineering is creative work, too.
- sangnoir 9y agoPer-plane sold? That's underselling yourself. Go the song-writer way: demand to have your royalties calculated based on flight-hours or per-passenger ticket /s.
- WalterBright 9y agoI like the cut of your jib!
- archagon 9y agoI honestly think that in a just society, you would deserve a fraction of the profits, yes. Even if it's some percentage of a cent.
- WalterBright 9y agoI was paid for my time spent there, an amount freely agreed upon by myself and Boeing. How is that not just in every way? I did want a piece of Boeing, though, and I did it the usual way - I bought BA stock. It's now worth something like, 100x what I paid for it. Anyone can get a "piece of the action" of any public corporation by buying shares of it. It'll cost you less than $10 in commission if you use one of the online brokers. Many corporations will also sell employees stock at a discount (usually called an "employee stock purchase plan"). Or they may grant you some stock options.
- archagon 9y agoYou made a thing that is now part of someone's capital. That person is getting exorbitantly rich far out of proportion both to the effort you put in and to the risk they took in bringing you on. In what ways would the world not be a better place if some of that capital defaulted to its creator? Would this arrangement be any stranger than some of the Byzantine corporate laws we already have to deal with? I'd say that a great number of our societal ills are caused by the top 1% hoarding over 40% of the wealth, and it would be great if we could take steps to correct this injustice systemically. Maybe not even with new laws. Maybe by simply incentivizing more companies to organize as cooperatives. I dunno! But the current system seems unfair, and even if some employees make bank, most of that bank is only human scale — not corporate profit scale, which is what the executives see. Shares aren't really the same thing since they don't grant you royalties; they're really more like supplemental income. IMO.
- kristiandupont 9y ago..and for everything else. Several of companies that I have worked for are still using code that I wrote without continuously paying me for it. That was what we agreed on so I don't see any injustice.