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Basic income schemes have been supported by Hayek, Friedman and Keynes. That's not a marker of liberality imo. He hated black folks and hippies enough to star

Basic income schemes have been supported by Hayek, Friedman and Keynes. That's not a marker of liberality imo. He hated black folks and hippies enough to start the War on Drugs which has absolutely destroyed black communities among others.

mirimir 9y ago
Sure, but what other President has favored basic income schemes? And sure, Nixon hated blacks and hippies. And Mexicans. And the War on Drugs has indeed been a disaster. But, I gotta ask, what President since has backed off substantially on the War on Drugs? Not Carter, as I recall. Or Reagan or Bush Sr. Or even Clinton. And for sure, not Bush Jr. Maybe Obama, to the extent of relaxing federal enforcement re marijuana in states that had legalized.
- asveikau 9y ago
  > Sure, but what other President has favored basic income schemes? I thought FDR came close. I was trying to find evidence of this but most google searches along these lines yield something called the Roosevelt Institute advocating UBI quite recently. I thought I did see a video of him advocating it in a speech. Regarding the broader topic of Nixon and policies that are now considered left wing, ignoring for a moment that the country has shifted very far economically rightwards starting around the Reagan years, regarding things like the EPA, the way I always heard it from people of age in the Nixon years was that he was rather forced into some of these things by the way the will of the public was shifting.
  - mirimir 9y ago
    Yes, FDR. But some say that he was forced into that by the Great Depression, and that otherwise there would have been a revolution. In 1932, there had been a huge WWI veterans encampment in DC. They finally got their money in 1936, in FDR's first term. And yes, Nixon was perhaps forced into it too. But actually, I mentioned that as evidence for the rightward shift since then.

mirimir 9y ago

Sure, but what other President has favored basic income schemes? And sure, Nixon hated blacks and hippies. And Mexicans. And the War on Drugs has indeed been a disaster. But, I gotta ask, what President since has backed off substantially on the War on Drugs? Not Carter, as I recall. Or Reagan or Bush Sr. Or even Clinton. And for sure, not Bush Jr. Maybe Obama, to the extent of relaxing federal enforcement re marijuana in states that had legalized.

asveikau 9y ago
> Sure, but what other President has favored basic income schemes? I thought FDR came close. I was trying to find evidence of this but most google searches along these lines yield something called the Roosevelt Institute advocating UBI quite recently. I thought I did see a video of him advocating it in a speech. Regarding the broader topic of Nixon and policies that are now considered left wing, ignoring for a moment that the country has shifted very far economically rightwards starting around the Reagan years, regarding things like the EPA, the way I always heard it from people of age in the Nixon years was that he was rather forced into some of these things by the way the will of the public was shifting.
- mirimir 9y ago
  Yes, FDR. But some say that he was forced into that by the Great Depression, and that otherwise there would have been a revolution. In 1932, there had been a huge WWI veterans encampment in DC. They finally got their money in 1936, in FDR's first term. And yes, Nixon was perhaps forced into it too. But actually, I mentioned that as evidence for the rightward shift since then.