> It's pretty clear that you haven't researched much, given that you had absolutely no clue how many calories are burned from an hour of exercise. Treadmill ma

> It's pretty clear that you haven't researched much, given that you had absolutely no clue how many calories are burned from an hour of exercise. Treadmill manufacturers have every incentive to overestimate the number of calories burned in an hour, so I was generous and used that number. If I had to pick a number myself based on my personal experience, I'd probably have gone lower. The laws of thermodynamics put that number somewhere above 0, I'll admit. My point was that a population that burns 10,000,000 calories in additional exercise will consume >10,000,000 additional calories as a result of having exercised. > And the vested interests of the fitness industry are not nearly as strong as the food industry among others, and I don't think it's fair or accurate to characterize the massive amount of research showing the benefits of exercise as being corrupted by money. I wasn't referring to the fitness industry, I was referring to the food industry. Companies like Coca Cola are among the largest funders of pro-exercise research.[1] The food industry has an incredible amount to gain by getting people to believe exercise works. They get the PR benefits of showing everyone how much they care about preventing obesity by spending a lot of money on the research, they get to influence that research by cutting funding to scientists who produce inconclusive or negative results (which shapes the way the population thinks about exercise to fit the Coca-Cola narrative), and they release themselves of all liability in the obesity epidemic by shifting the blame onto the consumer. It allows them to credibly claim that any consumer who experiences negative health effects from drinking their soda could have mitigated those negative health effects by exercising, but chose not to exercise. Muddying the waters on exercise is the food industry's perfect panacea, they want this to be true more than anybody. And they're winning, too. Remember all that stuff the tobacco companies were doing in the '50s and '60s? That's the food industry right now, except they're winning. Because people will believe anything about exercise. [1] https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/coca-cola-funds-scientists-who-shift-blame-for-obesity-away-from-bad-diets/ https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/coca-cola-funds-sc...