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Sounds illegal.
by whipoodle 9y ago
Sounds illegal.
- rabidrat 9y agoIf you read the article, you would know that it is in fact not illegal for police in Australia.
- QAPereo 9y agoBy the same token, other countries could try to extradite them under their laws, broken through the international, online distribution of CP.
- girvo 9y agoThey could, but the AFP is used by those other countries for exactly this reason. They have frighteningly broad latitude when it comes to breaking laws to achieve their goals. In this case, perhaps it was justified, but the VG article posted above raised some concerns with their methods that I agree with. Should see what our intelligence agencies are allowed to do. Australia has rather weak protections for its populace, and rather strong laws allowing police and intelligence forces to do this. Despite some large controversies, the public doesn’t seem to really mind, which scares me. My state, QLD, literally became a police state in some ways, under Bjelke-Peterson. I don’t forget that, but often it feels like everyone around me does...
- cyphar 9y agoI think it's just apathy, politics is mostly a joke here in Australia.
- ajdlinux 9y agoWe also don't have the same type of deep distrust of government that some other Western countries have - which is not to say that Australians love their governments, far from it, but we don't exactly have a strong anti-government streak. In many ways this is a good thing, but it does tend to mean we don't spend much time thinking about checks and balances.
- whipoodle 9y agoNo, I know it's not illegal when law enforcement does it. Very little is!
- fencepost 9y agoActually were it to be done by police in the USA, Canada and many other countries it would be illegal even for law enforcement.
- cyberferret 9y agoJust to clarify - the police department didn't create the site from scratch. They busted the original owner of it, then took over the site 'as is' and ran it for a while longer to gather evidence of other users, then shut the whole thing down. No different from cops everywhere knowing where a drug shipment is landing, then setting up a sting operation around that to see who comes along to collect, and then pouncing. (Rather than intercepting the drugs mid shipment or before it leaves).
- belorn 9y agoThat's not a fair comparison since in that scenario the police don't interact with any end user and are not distribution anything themselves. This is more akin to a police going under cover and selling drugs on the street, hoping to get near the supplier.
- QAPereo 9y ago...and in doing so, becoming the largest dealer... for a year.
- audeyisaacs 9y agoIn this case surely getting the producers is significantly outweighs being a dealer for a bit. >The Argos commander, Insp Jon Rouse, said it had led to “significant rescues of children globally” and the arrest of “serious criminal child sex offenders”.
- belorn 9y agoYes, which is something a lot of advocates has been pushing for. Put the massive resource currently allocated at blocking and use it to go after the producers. The consumers, the technology, the platforms, all those are of limited interest when the real goal is to rescues of children and stopping sex offenders. With limited resources police should prioritize efforts where it has the biggest positive effect on people and not where it has the biggest political effect.