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Pretty much exactly the same thing happens with Asian students in US universities today - admission standards vary widely by ethnicity/race. Jews were 2% of pop

by smm2000 9y ago

Pretty much exactly the same thing happens with Asian students in US universities today - admission standards vary widely by ethnicity/race. Jews were 2% of population but 10-20%+ of university students. Reverse discrimination was a thing then and is a thing now.

vajrabum 9y ago
I guess they have "reverse discrimination" in handing out prizes for intellectual contributions too. From Wikipedia: "While only about 2% of the U.S. population is of full Jewish descent,[1] 27% of United States Nobel prize winners in the 20th century,[1][2] 25% of Fields Medal winners, 25% of ACM Turing Award winners,[1] 9 out of the 19 world chess champions, and a quarter of Westinghouse Science Talent Search winners have either full or partial Jewish ancestry." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence
- uiri 9y ago
  That 2% figure includes full Jews. But what percentage of the population has partial Jewish ancestry?
zingmars 9y ago
>reverse discrimination No such thing. Discrimination is discrimination, no matter which way it's applied. I wish people stopped saying "reverse (discrimination|racism)" whatever as if these words meant discrimination against specific groups, but not others.
- akira2501 9y ago
  I think it's meant to imply the reasoning behind it. "Standard discrimination" is done out of fear or hatred, and "reverse discrimination" is done out of ignorance and a misguided desire to "help."
astura 9y ago
No, it does not happen in US universities today. "Select applicants" are not given trick questions "distinguished by having a simple solution that is difficult to find" in the US.
- mellowdream 9y ago
  Instead we have the black box of the college admissions office, deliberating over components of the college application such as essays and extracurricular activities intentionally designed for subjective evaluation, where the outcomes of applicants are incontestible and unexplained, where they do not even need to think about designing difficult questions around simple solutions that would otherwise be cause for dispute.

vajrabum 9y ago

I guess they have "reverse discrimination" in handing out prizes for intellectual contributions too. From Wikipedia: "While only about 2% of the U.S. population is of full Jewish descent,[1] 27% of United States Nobel prize winners in the 20th century,[1][2] 25% of Fields Medal winners, 25% of ACM Turing Award winners,[1] 9 out of the 19 world chess champions, and a quarter of Westinghouse Science Talent Search winners have either full or partial Jewish ancestry." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

uiri 9y ago
That 2% figure includes full Jews. But what percentage of the population has partial Jewish ancestry?

zingmars 9y ago

>reverse discrimination No such thing. Discrimination is discrimination, no matter which way it's applied. I wish people stopped saying "reverse (discrimination|racism)" whatever as if these words meant discrimination against specific groups, but not others.

akira2501 9y ago
I think it's meant to imply the reasoning behind it. "Standard discrimination" is done out of fear or hatred, and "reverse discrimination" is done out of ignorance and a misguided desire to "help."

astura 9y ago

No, it does not happen in US universities today. "Select applicants" are not given trick questions "distinguished by having a simple solution that is difficult to find" in the US.

mellowdream 9y ago
Instead we have the black box of the college admissions office, deliberating over components of the college application such as essays and extracurricular activities intentionally designed for subjective evaluation, where the outcomes of applicants are incontestible and unexplained, where they do not even need to think about designing difficult questions around simple solutions that would otherwise be cause for dispute.