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Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15400217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15400217 > I understand the ISA is open source, but SiF
by gioele 9y ago
Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15400217 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15400217
> I understand the ISA is open source, but SiFive does appear to be selling their IP.
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> https://dev.sifive.com/coreplex-risc-v-ip/buy/ https://dev.sifive.com/coreplex-risc-v-ip/buy/
IIUC, SiFive is selling the ready-made "hard IP" [1], that means a compiled netlist that has been laid out at a slightly-abstract-but-almost-mask level.
All this is manual work done on top of a netlist generated using the open-source Rocket chip generator [2,3] (SiFive people contribute to the upstream repository).
Let's make a Wordpress analogy: SiFive is a big contributor to Wordpress and does most of the work upstream. At the same time they sell you preconfigured server images for your blog with Wordpress, nginx, varnish and postfix almost ready to go (few settings like IP, hostname and WP theme are still missing).
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_intellectual_property_core#Hard_cores https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_intellectual_pro...
[2] https://bar.eecs.berkeley.edu/projects/2014-rocket_chip.html https://bar.eecs.berkeley.edu/projects/2014-rocket_chip.html
[3] https://github.com/freechipsproject/rocket-chip https://github.com/freechipsproject/rocket-chip
- kobeya 9y agoAlso they resell IP that is not theirs to give away, sadly. They are working on putting this chip in workstation class hardware, and when they do it will support PCIe, DDR4, USB3, etc. using off the shelf solutions they have licensed and integrated.
- jononor 9y agoI hope that over time they, or partners, or others, will develop open source alternatives to these IP blocks. So that we can gradually increase the level of openness
- Recurecur 9y agoWill this all be on a SOC? Are these plans public? It'd be great to get some single board computers on the market based on this architecture...
- kobeya 9y agohttps://www.sifive.com/products/freedom/ https://www.sifive.com/products/freedom/ Scroll down to "Freedom Unleashed".