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Looking at the language, I fail to see a point. It seems to fix things that are slightly nagging, but not real problems with c (lack of real modules, structs,

Looking at the language, I fail to see a point. It seems to fix things that are slightly nagging, but not real problems with c (lack of real modules, structs, default arguments, integer sizes) while failing to fix the real problems (strings, buffer checks, metaprogramming, type introspection (_Generic doesn't really solve this, and neither does __typeof__(). A slightly enhanced __typeof__() plus a slightly enhanced _Generic might have a shot)). No more includes/header files seems to imply no more preprocessor, which is a shame because while it may have been hackish, it was one of c's greatest strengths. > more logical keywords (public/local replaces static) My friends, have you heard of the wonderous c preprocessor? #define func #define local static #define public Agree with what comex said about compilation/building. For a slightly nicer alternative to c, what about zig[1]? 1: http://ziglang.org/ http://ziglang.org/

adamnemecek 9y ago
Why does no more headers imply no preprocessor.
- earenndil 9y ago
  Because #include is a major part of the preprocessor. Because I didn't see any other preprocessor use in the example programs.
  - frou_dh 9y ago
    Maybe they meant that you do not need "permission" from a language to use a preprocessor, and so can use one anyway.
geezerjay 9y ago
> Looking at the language, I fail to see a point. It seems to fix things that are slightly nagging, but not real problems with c (...) while failing to fix the real problems I agree. What caught my eye was how they kept C's "clockwise/spiral" rule for declarations. If their goal was to actually improve the language over C then it makes no sense to keep one of C's main shortcomings. Heck, even C++ improved on this problem by introducing support for trailing return type declarations in C++11. In addition, it appears C2 still lacks support for anonymous functions, which is simply absurd in today's age.

adamnemecek 9y ago

Why does no more headers imply no preprocessor.

earenndil 9y ago
Because #include is a major part of the preprocessor. Because I didn't see any other preprocessor use in the example programs.
- frou_dh 9y ago
  Maybe they meant that you do not need "permission" from a language to use a preprocessor, and so can use one anyway.

geezerjay 9y ago

> Looking at the language, I fail to see a point. It seems to fix things that are slightly nagging, but not real problems with c (...) while failing to fix the real problems I agree. What caught my eye was how they kept C's "clockwise/spiral" rule for declarations. If their goal was to actually improve the language over C then it makes no sense to keep one of C's main shortcomings. Heck, even C++ improved on this problem by introducing support for trailing return type declarations in C++11. In addition, it appears C2 still lacks support for anonymous functions, which is simply absurd in today's age.