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Can you at least try to not rip sentences like these completely out of their place? There's people here who won't bother to translate and you're abusing that to

Can you at least try to not rip sentences like these completely out of their place? There's people here who won't bother to translate and you're abusing that to make Mozilla look bad. The sentences afterwards: "Cliqz uses different methods which should take care of removing sensitive information, before it's sent out from Firefox. Additionally, Cliqz does not create profiles of individual users and erases their IPs as soon as the data has been collected. The code of Cliqz is publicly accessible [open-source under MPLv2] [1] and a description of the used methods can be viewed here [in English, 2]." [1] https://github.com/cliqz-oss/browser-core/blob/master/modules/human-web/sources/human-web.es https://github.com/cliqz-oss/browser-core/blob/master/module... [2] https://gist.github.com/solso/423a1104a9e3c1e3b8d7c9ca14e885e5 https://gist.github.com/solso/423a1104a9e3c1e3b8d7c9ca14e885...

smegel 9y ago
1) the sentence is true. 2) why should I or anyone else trust a company called Cliqz to do anything?
- floatingatoll 9y ago
  Who wold trust a company named “YCombinator”? Or “Google”, which was at one point a sexual slang word?! Discriminating by name will get you absolutely nowhere.
  - clan 9y ago
    You hit the point accurately. But misses why the discrimination is both warranted and needed. We do not trust those either. With the recent progress in Firefox they had a really good position to win users back. A key driver would be getting away from Google (Chrome) who wants your data. That driver has now been reduced. They have taken the lower road. Neither do I trust YCombinator with this data. Or anyone else... So why trust company X? The point being: I do not. Thank you for your software but please do not use it as leverage for getting my data.
clan 9y ago
No abuse here. I honestly think you are missing the point of what is upsetting people. Nothing in your full quote makes it any more palatable. No matter how nice your intentions are. No matter how transparent you are. No matter how sincere your wish to contribute to a greater common good is. Do not... Do not... Do simply not collect my browsing data. They are not yours to have. Whatever excuse is brought to the table I will take it as dishonesty. It can come as no surprise that even the slightest privacy concerned users will take offense of this. They simply hope it will fly under the radar of the common users - because "we do good". (Please do not take the "yours" as a personal attack - english is my second language - some nuance has been lost in translation)
- floatingatoll 9y ago
  Please switch to TOR browser. You have clearly indicated that you will treat all future words from Mozilla as lies, so I will make no effort to explain why you should.
  - clan 9y ago
    Take it like that if you will. There is a distinction between considering something dishonest and flat out lies. You do however not indicate any interest in discussing the finer points. This is already too far into the realm of flame wars. I apologize to those who had to endure. I got caught up: Someone on the Internet was wrong! Have a nice weekend!
  - notalaser 9y ago
    After seeing the astroturfing in this thread, I'm switching to Vivaldi or Chromium, not Tor Browser.

smegel 9y ago

1) the sentence is true. 2) why should I or anyone else trust a company called Cliqz to do anything?

floatingatoll 9y ago
Who wold trust a company named “YCombinator”? Or “Google”, which was at one point a sexual slang word?! Discriminating by name will get you absolutely nowhere.
- clan 9y ago
  You hit the point accurately. But misses why the discrimination is both warranted and needed. We do not trust those either. With the recent progress in Firefox they had a really good position to win users back. A key driver would be getting away from Google (Chrome) who wants your data. That driver has now been reduced. They have taken the lower road. Neither do I trust YCombinator with this data. Or anyone else... So why trust company X? The point being: I do not. Thank you for your software but please do not use it as leverage for getting my data.

clan 9y ago

No abuse here. I honestly think you are missing the point of what is upsetting people. Nothing in your full quote makes it any more palatable. No matter how nice your intentions are. No matter how transparent you are. No matter how sincere your wish to contribute to a greater common good is. Do not... Do not... Do simply not collect my browsing data. They are not yours to have. Whatever excuse is brought to the table I will take it as dishonesty. It can come as no surprise that even the slightest privacy concerned users will take offense of this. They simply hope it will fly under the radar of the common users - because "we do good". (Please do not take the "yours" as a personal attack - english is my second language - some nuance has been lost in translation)

floatingatoll 9y ago
Please switch to TOR browser. You have clearly indicated that you will treat all future words from Mozilla as lies, so I will make no effort to explain why you should.
- clan 9y ago
  Take it like that if you will. There is a distinction between considering something dishonest and flat out lies. You do however not indicate any interest in discussing the finer points. This is already too far into the realm of flame wars. I apologize to those who had to endure. I got caught up: Someone on the Internet was wrong! Have a nice weekend!
- notalaser 9y ago
  After seeing the astroturfing in this thread, I'm switching to Vivaldi or Chromium, not Tor Browser.