I think a lot of these comments are directed at Xcode and tooling, not Swift specifically. This is unfortunately just the trend with where we are at with new de

I think a lot of these comments are directed at Xcode and tooling, not Swift specifically. This is unfortunately just the trend with where we are at with new desktop mac software, hopefully High Sierra's focus on improvements over features will be a turning point, Xcode 9 does seem to be on the right track. When I was out of the office this week, two server side java developers helped a Swift junior step through some code - they both were really surprised and impressed at just how approachable Swift is. As well, I notice daily how few runtime errors and issues we have with Swift code-bases comparatively. I think a lot of these comments are straw-manning the language. Yeah, people don't like being beta testers, or using immature and changing software vs very mature and stable software - that's not comparing two languages themselves though.