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The current price of Bitcoin is mostly driven by the fraud taking place within the Ethereum ecosystem. Let's see where the price is after a few rounds of SEC cr
by Alex3917 9y ago
The current price of Bitcoin is mostly driven by the fraud taking place within the Ethereum ecosystem. Let's see where the price is after a few rounds of SEC crackdowns.
- chrisco255 9y agoIt would suffer a temporary drop then inevitably climb back up again. Bitcoin is global at this point. No one jurisdiction is going to shut it down.
- QAPereo 9y agoThere is nothing inevitable about it, but even if it were, the SEC has a long arm. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-arm_jurisdiction https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-arm_jurisdiction https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disgorgement https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disgorgement http://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1088&context=bblj http://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?arti... http://www.scotusblog.com/2017/04/argument-preview-long-arm-sec/ http://www.scotusblog.com/2017/04/argument-preview-long-arm-...
- kccqzy 9y agoHere’s a thought experiment. Yes Bitcoin is global but like all other distributed systems, the CAP theorem applies. When there is a network partition, you can only choose between consistency and availability. Now what if tomorrow the Chinese government decided to totally block Bitcoin traffic, just like they block Facebook, Twitter, NYT, Tor and VPNs? Losing either consistency or availability would be a heavy blow. It’s either going to stop working at all, or fork into a Chinese and non-Chinese version. I don’t see how either of them inspires confidence.
- Xophmeister 9y agoI think it would be pretty difficult to block a P2P network at that layer of the stack to effectively partition the network. The list of peers is dynamic, so it would always be one step ahead of The Great Firewall.
- colejohnson66 9y agoPacket Inspection?
- chrisco255 9y agoIt wouldn't matter at all. It would inconvenience Chinese holders of Bitcoin. You can't really block Bitcoin traffic. There's ways around firewalls. For example, I could embed a bitcoin address into a JPG image, certain XY positions would contain the bits which could be decoded into an address or key. That could then be routed to the Bitcoin network once outside of China. As long as you can send bits, you can send bitcoin.
- QAPereo 9y agoYou can arrest people and seize their assets.
- VarFarYonder 9y ago> Bitcoin is global at this point. No one jurisdiction is going to shut it down. Especially as countries like Japan are embracing cryptocurrencies. That must make other countries wonder whether trying to attack cryptocurrencies will end up leaving them at a competitive disadvantage.
- omarchowdhury 9y agoThat's kind of an absurd claim to make. What exactly is your reasoning?
- Alex3917 9y agoThe price is 5x since after the ETH hype started a few months ago. Literally just look at the price history.
- omarchowdhury 9y agoCorrelation does not imply causation. Did I really have to tell someone on HN this?
- QAPereo 9y agoYou asked for reasoning, not evidence, so it might be helpful not to move those goalposts.
- omarchowdhury 9y agoReasoning can't have or be evidence?
- QAPereo 9y agoThey’re two words with different meanings, and I don’t find semantic arguments engaging, sorry.
- omarchowdhury 9y agoEven though your whole contribution to this discussion was semantic. The definition of reasoning is: "the action of thinking about something in a logical, sensible way." As if evidence could not be a component of reasoning that leads one to logic and sense. The only reason why you don't want to engage this further is because you knew your quip was fruitless from the start.
- tlrobinson 9y agoOr could the frothy ICO market be due to successful cryptocurrency investors throwing money at anything to try to "diversify" their portfolios?