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>>> With no way to define intelligence (except just pointing to ourselves), we don't even know if it's a quantity that can be maximized. For all we know, human-

>>> With no way to define intelligence (except just pointing to ourselves), we don't even know if it's a quantity that can be maximized. For all we know, human-level intelligence could be a tradeoff. Maybe any entity significantly smarter than a human being would be crippled by existential despair, or spend all its time in Buddha-like contemplation.<< The only intelligence that I believe is important is problem solving. If an AI is as capable as humans at problem solving then that is all you need. >>crippled by existential despair Sounds to me that you are talking about feelings. I really do not see the purpose of purposely giving the AI feelings. A strong AI should not have any feelings just like your google maps application does not have any feelings when giving you directions. A general AI will simply be a general problem solver at the same level of a human but with a virtual infinite capacity to scale its computational abilities. You could definitely give it free will so that it decides its own goals but why would anybody do something like that unless they want it to turn on them? It would be like somebody launching a nuclear ballistic missile and letting it decide which city to land in. It is possible to program that type of free will but why? It could decide to destroy your city.

perl4ever 9y ago
Feelings regulate actions. People don't blindly follow rules that would lead to disaster because of more fundamental regulatory mechanisms such as feelings. In order to make an AI that is as flexible as a smart human, it can't be brittle, and therefore will need ways to break out of logical traps. That is what a general problem solver must be like, inherently.
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- therein 9y ago
  Very interesting point about using feelings and intuition to break out of logical traps. Does that also mean this AI will be fallible or perhaps even stubborn? Will it ever refuse to accept that it is wrong about a result it produces?
- felipemnoa 9y ago
  Feelings can be irrational so I really do not think you want to employ a mechanism that uses anything resembling feelings. If it can be irrational that means it can also go crazy and decide to exterminate all human kind. >>In order to make an AI that is as flexible as a smart human, it can't be brittle, and therefore will need ways to break out of logical traps. I think this can be achieved without having to give the machines flaws we have just like we did not need to create machines with flapping wings to fly. Remember that the only goal of a living organism is to replicate and have its DNA live another generation. That's it. Feelings helps us achieve that goal I suppose. An AI does not need to have that goal. If anybody were to give it that goal it would only be a matter of time before it decided that humans were standing in the way of its goal.

perl4ever 9y ago

Feelings regulate actions. People don't blindly follow rules that would lead to disaster because of more fundamental regulatory mechanisms such as feelings. In order to make an AI that is as flexible as a smart human, it can't be brittle, and therefore will need ways to break out of logical traps. That is what a general problem solver must be like, inherently.

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therein 9y ago
Very interesting point about using feelings and intuition to break out of logical traps. Does that also mean this AI will be fallible or perhaps even stubborn? Will it ever refuse to accept that it is wrong about a result it produces?
felipemnoa 9y ago
Feelings can be irrational so I really do not think you want to employ a mechanism that uses anything resembling feelings. If it can be irrational that means it can also go crazy and decide to exterminate all human kind. >>In order to make an AI that is as flexible as a smart human, it can't be brittle, and therefore will need ways to break out of logical traps. I think this can be achieved without having to give the machines flaws we have just like we did not need to create machines with flapping wings to fly. Remember that the only goal of a living organism is to replicate and have its DNA live another generation. That's it. Feelings helps us achieve that goal I suppose. An AI does not need to have that goal. If anybody were to give it that goal it would only be a matter of time before it decided that humans were standing in the way of its goal.