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I feel like you could substitute AI for any existential threat in that to try to make people look silly. "Climate change ... really is a form of religion" ...

I feel like you could substitute AI for any existential threat in that to try to make people look silly. "Climate change ... really is a form of religion" ... add some analogies to Catholic punishment fantasies and doomsday prophecies to make it sound just like the type of thing humans have been talking about forever, criticize scientists for guilting people into giving them money to study their apocalypse fantasy, etc.

crooked-v 9y ago
The difference is that environmental protection evangelists never literally just reinvented Pascal's wager except with an all-powerful AI instead. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk
- AgentME 9y ago
  I thought the point of Roko's basilisk was a paradox to use to test different decision theories and to explore the nature of identity (Should the decision theory allow your choices to be influenced on possible outcomes to possible future copies of yourself?), and maybe a little about whether dangerous thoughts could exist in theory. Not an actual prediction or argument for or against AI research, any more than say the twin paradox is an argument for or against splitting up twins to send one on a rocket.
  - Filligree 9y ago
    If it has any use at all, then it'd have to be something like that. GP's choice of link is extremely unfortunate, given that rationalwiki has a vendetta going against the AI risk movement in general. I would recommend https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko's_basilisk https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko's_basilisk instead.
- Filligree 9y ago
  You're not doing yourself any favours by quoting Rationalwiki on that subject. The guy who wrote that article appears to have an axe to grind with the AI risk movement in general, and Eliezer Yudkowsky in particular; as a result, it's full of misleading statements and outright lies. Try this one instead, for a less biased take on it: https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko's_basilisk https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko's_basilisk

crooked-v 9y ago

The difference is that environmental protection evangelists never literally just reinvented Pascal's wager except with an all-powerful AI instead. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk

AgentME 9y ago
I thought the point of Roko's basilisk was a paradox to use to test different decision theories and to explore the nature of identity (Should the decision theory allow your choices to be influenced on possible outcomes to possible future copies of yourself?), and maybe a little about whether dangerous thoughts could exist in theory. Not an actual prediction or argument for or against AI research, any more than say the twin paradox is an argument for or against splitting up twins to send one on a rocket.
- Filligree 9y ago
  If it has any use at all, then it'd have to be something like that. GP's choice of link is extremely unfortunate, given that rationalwiki has a vendetta going against the AI risk movement in general. I would recommend https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko's_basilisk https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko's_basilisk instead.
Filligree 9y ago
You're not doing yourself any favours by quoting Rationalwiki on that subject. The guy who wrote that article appears to have an axe to grind with the AI risk movement in general, and Eliezer Yudkowsky in particular; as a result, it's full of misleading statements and outright lies. Try this one instead, for a less biased take on it: https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko's_basilisk https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Roko's_basilisk