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This comment deserves more upvotes, because even if you don't agree with it, it accurately distills the perspective of those who are aghast that liberals increa

This comment deserves more upvotes, because even if you don't agree with it, it accurately distills the perspective of those who are aghast that liberals increasingly seem to be unable to tolerate the idea of a jewish dude who is married to a black dude being allowed to speak (and worse, calling him a Nazi. If a gay, "race traitor" jew is a Nazi then who isn't?) I'm a liberal, who years ago really worked to champion free speech. I think what's going on now is the rise of a puritan neo-liberalism. PS- the post I'm replying to is comprised of concepts or statements that I've actually seen people express.

leftistcensor04 9y ago
Consider Ben Shapiro - one of the brightest political minds of this generation, and an orthodox jew. Regularly branded as a nazi white supremacist by leftist mobs. Hilarious.
- wahern 9y ago
  Being Jewish, or adhering to Orthodox Judaism, doesn't prevent you from adopting or espousing fascist or racist ideologies. And smart people are often better than most at crafting self-serving rationalizations. It's inexcusable the way some people on the left throw around the term Nazi, just like it's inexcusable when conservatives use it. But surely you understand that with both liberal and conservative usage the epithet Nazi has a much broader (not to mention often incoherent) connotation in modern culture.
  - leftistcensor04 9y ago
    I accept your challenge. Produce one fascist or racist statement made by Ben Shapiro. The point I'm making is that "progressive philosophy" dictates that an argument is won almost entirely based on "victim" points. By imagining a concept "victims" and "injustices", progressive leftists believe they are able to completely control narratives, expression, and speech as we know it.
    - geofft 9y ago
      > The point I'm making is that "progressive philosophy" dictates that an argument is won almost entirely based on "victim" points. Aren't you making the exact opposite argument? Both Shapiro and Yiannopoulos have plenty of "victim points", which you have kindly enumerated, and are yet not winning any arguments in the eyes of "progressive philosophy," as you have stated.
      - throwaway283423 9y ago
        I would not have chosen milo as an example, I consider him an entertainer, nothing more. The left's reaction to Ben is precisely what exposes their hypocrisy. Their strategy to pit "victims" and "saviors" against "injustice" is an effort to control opposition, they don't even try to win arguments with debate anymore. A non-participating "victim" remains (Ben) and it is revealed that the only tool they possess is to call everyone who disagrees with them racist, sexist nazis.
      - throwaway283423 9y ago
        while i'm here (and not banned yet) i'd like to point out how extraordinary it is - how many accounts I've had to create here to comment on a thread about "free speech". if you didn't have double-think, you wouldn't think at all.
- geofft 9y ago
  And yet the "leftist mobs" are capable of understanding that a person is to be judged by the content of their character, and not the color of their skin, the religion of their mother, or the gender of their partner. Why are you insisting on identity politics?
  - throwaway283423 9y ago
    lol leftist mobs judging by character... capable of understanding. you're full of laughs today. which political group is associated with their obsession and exploitation of racial, gender and religious divisions? read my other reply to you for why I believe Ben is enemy #1 of the left. identity politics are in play, that's for sure.
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      > which political group is associated with their obsession and exploitation of racial, gender and religious divisions? The Republican Party since the Southern Strategy and embrace of the Christian Right, why?
      - throwaway283423 9y ago
        Oh you mean 60 years ago? When everyone was racist? And Democats enacted the Jim Crow laws? Welcome to the 21st century
      - throwaway283423 9y ago
        Oh in the 50's? Around the time when the Demcrats' Jim Crow laws were repealed? And when 99 democrats (starring Bill Clinton) and 2 republicans signed the Southern Manifesto? Can you get a little more current, please? Not sure that was a good time range for your narrative. other comment was flagged. we'll see how long this one lasts. Leftist censors sure hate history, Scooby.
      - cusbaudgs 9y ago
        Oh in the 50’s? Around the time when the Democrats’ Jim Crow laws were repealed? And when 99 Democrats (starring Bill Clinton) and 2 Republicans signed the Southern Manifesto? Can you get a little more current please? Not sure that was a good time range for your narrative. This comment has been flagged 3 times. It must be effective.
s73ver_ 9y ago
Milo is referred to as a Nazi because of his actions and his statements. It has absolutely nothing to do with his race, or his husbands race, and to try and say otherwise is completely missing the point.
- opjfwoie 9y ago
  Would love to hear about these actions and statements that allow for use of the term "nazi". Spoiler: I've watched every single one of his speeches. I would bet money you're understanding of him is limited to Buzzfeed gossip.

leftistcensor04 9y ago

Consider Ben Shapiro - one of the brightest political minds of this generation, and an orthodox jew. Regularly branded as a nazi white supremacist by leftist mobs. Hilarious.

wahern 9y ago
Being Jewish, or adhering to Orthodox Judaism, doesn't prevent you from adopting or espousing fascist or racist ideologies. And smart people are often better than most at crafting self-serving rationalizations. It's inexcusable the way some people on the left throw around the term Nazi, just like it's inexcusable when conservatives use it. But surely you understand that with both liberal and conservative usage the epithet Nazi has a much broader (not to mention often incoherent) connotation in modern culture.
- leftistcensor04 9y ago
  I accept your challenge. Produce one fascist or racist statement made by Ben Shapiro. The point I'm making is that "progressive philosophy" dictates that an argument is won almost entirely based on "victim" points. By imagining a concept "victims" and "injustices", progressive leftists believe they are able to completely control narratives, expression, and speech as we know it.
  - geofft 9y ago
    > The point I'm making is that "progressive philosophy" dictates that an argument is won almost entirely based on "victim" points. Aren't you making the exact opposite argument? Both Shapiro and Yiannopoulos have plenty of "victim points", which you have kindly enumerated, and are yet not winning any arguments in the eyes of "progressive philosophy," as you have stated.
    - throwaway283423 9y ago
      I would not have chosen milo as an example, I consider him an entertainer, nothing more. The left's reaction to Ben is precisely what exposes their hypocrisy. Their strategy to pit "victims" and "saviors" against "injustice" is an effort to control opposition, they don't even try to win arguments with debate anymore. A non-participating "victim" remains (Ben) and it is revealed that the only tool they possess is to call everyone who disagrees with them racist, sexist nazis.
    - throwaway283423 9y ago
      while i'm here (and not banned yet) i'd like to point out how extraordinary it is - how many accounts I've had to create here to comment on a thread about "free speech". if you didn't have double-think, you wouldn't think at all.
geofft 9y ago
And yet the "leftist mobs" are capable of understanding that a person is to be judged by the content of their character, and not the color of their skin, the religion of their mother, or the gender of their partner. Why are you insisting on identity politics?
- throwaway283423 9y ago
  lol leftist mobs judging by character... capable of understanding. you're full of laughs today. which political group is associated with their obsession and exploitation of racial, gender and religious divisions? read my other reply to you for why I believe Ben is enemy #1 of the left. identity politics are in play, that's for sure.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > which political group is associated with their obsession and exploitation of racial, gender and religious divisions? The Republican Party since the Southern Strategy and embrace of the Christian Right, why?
    - throwaway283423 9y ago
      Oh you mean 60 years ago? When everyone was racist? And Democats enacted the Jim Crow laws? Welcome to the 21st century
    - throwaway283423 9y ago
      Oh in the 50's? Around the time when the Demcrats' Jim Crow laws were repealed? And when 99 democrats (starring Bill Clinton) and 2 republicans signed the Southern Manifesto? Can you get a little more current, please? Not sure that was a good time range for your narrative. other comment was flagged. we'll see how long this one lasts. Leftist censors sure hate history, Scooby.
    - cusbaudgs 9y ago
      Oh in the 50’s? Around the time when the Democrats’ Jim Crow laws were repealed? And when 99 Democrats (starring Bill Clinton) and 2 Republicans signed the Southern Manifesto? Can you get a little more current please? Not sure that was a good time range for your narrative. This comment has been flagged 3 times. It must be effective.

s73ver_ 9y ago

Milo is referred to as a Nazi because of his actions and his statements. It has absolutely nothing to do with his race, or his husbands race, and to try and say otherwise is completely missing the point.

opjfwoie 9y ago
Would love to hear about these actions and statements that allow for use of the term "nazi". Spoiler: I've watched every single one of his speeches. I would bet money you're understanding of him is limited to Buzzfeed gossip.