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I'm amazed at how mature he sounds in this interview at age 29, like far more direct, honest, confident and smart than say, Zuckerberg. He was very prescient an

I'm amazed at how mature he sounds in this interview at age 29, like far more direct, honest, confident and smart than say, Zuckerberg. He was very prescient and when wrong (he didn't anticipate the clone makers, saying there wouldn't be another $200M+ PC company) it was an area he really didn't care to be involved in.

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tw1010 9y ago
Compared to Zuckerberg, sure. But 29 is hardly that young to be this articulate and wise. I feel like sentiments like this is much more about hero worship than a statement about how unusually well spoken he his compared to most people his age.
- IncRnd 9y ago
  Excellent point. Thank you for making me think about this. Zuckerberg did some things to achieve success. Jobs did some things to achieve success, one of which was speaking well.
- r00fus 9y ago
  Well, it's not meaningful to compare Jobs to Zuck in any way than that they were founders of large, powerful companies. I think the more interesting things is that Jobs embodies what Apple did best: being able to explain/present technology in a very understandable way. I felt that he didn't make you come to him, he brought it to you. He was very intelligent, confident and opinionated. But what made him great was his salesmanship combined with the above. I have yet to see/hear another tech CEO/founder that made as much sense as Jobs for the things he cared about.
- hellofunk 9y ago
  He was just as articulate at 22. When you see his interviews during the launch of the Apple I, you see the same Jobs as in this interview several years later.
marcell 9y ago
Not to take away from your point but people have different strengths. Zuckerberg is bad at social skills but (evidently) a great hacker and amazing at business strategy. It took Jobs a long time to master business management that allowed Apple to become a hugely successful company. Zuckerberg (and others, e.g. Bill Gates) got it right away.
- valuearb 9y ago
  I think the interview makes it clear he had mastered a great deal about business management already.
5_minutes 9y ago
Compared to Zuckerberg anyone not-evil looks great.
- wavefunction 9y ago
  Jobs had many flaws which are often elided in his hagiographies.
  - valuearb 9y ago
    As did Mother Theresa, Gandhi, Lincoln, Washington, Churchill, et al.
    - bjshepard 9y ago
      Gandhi was a straight up racist. Lincoln participated in an ethnic cleansing campaign as a young man. Washington was one of the founders of a slave empire and a slaver himself. Churchill, a genocidaire, financially linked with arms dealers, and militarist.
csomar 9y ago
Very different circumstance. Jobs at that stage was a mini-celebrity and a multi-millionaire. Zuck right now is one of the most famous people in the world, hold incredible power (maybe even more than some of the worlds governments) and is a multi-billionaire. Most people think Zuck is evil or abnormal. He is a regular dude. He is just sitting on a couple million of hydrogen bombs ready to explode. Facebook is very influential today and the parties it affects are not just companies but governments. These are not easy entities to deal with.

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tw1010 9y ago

Compared to Zuckerberg, sure. But 29 is hardly that young to be this articulate and wise. I feel like sentiments like this is much more about hero worship than a statement about how unusually well spoken he his compared to most people his age.

IncRnd 9y ago
Excellent point. Thank you for making me think about this. Zuckerberg did some things to achieve success. Jobs did some things to achieve success, one of which was speaking well.
r00fus 9y ago
Well, it's not meaningful to compare Jobs to Zuck in any way than that they were founders of large, powerful companies. I think the more interesting things is that Jobs embodies what Apple did best: being able to explain/present technology in a very understandable way. I felt that he didn't make you come to him, he brought it to you. He was very intelligent, confident and opinionated. But what made him great was his salesmanship combined with the above. I have yet to see/hear another tech CEO/founder that made as much sense as Jobs for the things he cared about.
hellofunk 9y ago
He was just as articulate at 22. When you see his interviews during the launch of the Apple I, you see the same Jobs as in this interview several years later.

marcell 9y ago

Not to take away from your point but people have different strengths. Zuckerberg is bad at social skills but (evidently) a great hacker and amazing at business strategy. It took Jobs a long time to master business management that allowed Apple to become a hugely successful company. Zuckerberg (and others, e.g. Bill Gates) got it right away.

valuearb 9y ago
I think the interview makes it clear he had mastered a great deal about business management already.

5_minutes 9y ago

Compared to Zuckerberg anyone not-evil looks great.

wavefunction 9y ago
Jobs had many flaws which are often elided in his hagiographies.
- valuearb 9y ago
  As did Mother Theresa, Gandhi, Lincoln, Washington, Churchill, et al.
  - bjshepard 9y ago
    Gandhi was a straight up racist. Lincoln participated in an ethnic cleansing campaign as a young man. Washington was one of the founders of a slave empire and a slaver himself. Churchill, a genocidaire, financially linked with arms dealers, and militarist.

csomar 9y ago

Very different circumstance. Jobs at that stage was a mini-celebrity and a multi-millionaire. Zuck right now is one of the most famous people in the world, hold incredible power (maybe even more than some of the worlds governments) and is a multi-billionaire. Most people think Zuck is evil or abnormal. He is a regular dude. He is just sitting on a couple million of hydrogen bombs ready to explode. Facebook is very influential today and the parties it affects are not just companies but governments. These are not easy entities to deal with.