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I love it! Now, if it can render content where: - HTML is replaced with S-Exprs - CSS is replaced with lisp - javascript is replaced with lisp Then I think

I love it! Now, if it can render content where: - HTML is replaced with S-Exprs - CSS is replaced with lisp - javascript is replaced with lisp Then I think I'll be ready to join whatever cult you ever feel like starting :-)

patrickmay 9y ago
That's no cult, that's a Utopia!
Zaak 9y ago
I wouldn't like to see CSS replaced with lisp. CSS is declarative, lisp is imperative/functional.
- keymone 9y ago
  Lisp can be very much declarative. It can be literally any paradigm by virtue of being a direct representation of it's AST while all other languages have to be parsed into AST.
- infinite8s 9y ago
  CSS's cascading rules can be diagrammed as a tree, so can be shown as s-exprs.
  - Zaak 9y ago
    I can clearly imagine how s-exprs can replace html, but I don't understand how s-exprs would replace css. Would you show a toy example?
    - escherize 9y ago
      Here's a working example: https://github.com/noprompt/garden https://github.com/noprompt/garden
keymone 9y ago
HTML: https://github.com/weavejester/hiccup https://github.com/weavejester/hiccup CSS: https://github.com/noprompt/garden https://github.com/noprompt/garden Javascript: https://github.com/clojure/clojurescript https://github.com/clojure/clojurescript seriously, Clojure is the utopia.
- peatmoss 9y ago
  Good point—I was mostly wanting to replace the need for HTML, CSS, and Javascript as compile targets. And Clojure is indeed a joy.
  - keymone 9y ago
    ah, right, i don't aim that high :)
zeveb 9y ago
No reason this couldn't accept a content type of application/htsl (for hypertext S-expression language, of course). I proposed something like this in a comment of mine a couple of months back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14931277 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14931277
Fice 9y ago
Wouldn't that be "reinventing the flat tire"? The Web needs far more serious redesign than just replacing the syntaxes.

patrickmay 9y ago

That's no cult, that's a Utopia!

Zaak 9y ago

I wouldn't like to see CSS replaced with lisp. CSS is declarative, lisp is imperative/functional.

keymone 9y ago
Lisp can be very much declarative. It can be literally any paradigm by virtue of being a direct representation of it's AST while all other languages have to be parsed into AST.
infinite8s 9y ago
CSS's cascading rules can be diagrammed as a tree, so can be shown as s-exprs.
- Zaak 9y ago
  I can clearly imagine how s-exprs can replace html, but I don't understand how s-exprs would replace css. Would you show a toy example?
  - escherize 9y ago
    Here's a working example: https://github.com/noprompt/garden https://github.com/noprompt/garden

keymone 9y ago

HTML: https://github.com/weavejester/hiccup https://github.com/weavejester/hiccup CSS: https://github.com/noprompt/garden https://github.com/noprompt/garden Javascript: https://github.com/clojure/clojurescript https://github.com/clojure/clojurescript seriously, Clojure is the utopia.

peatmoss 9y ago
Good point—I was mostly wanting to replace the need for HTML, CSS, and Javascript as compile targets. And Clojure is indeed a joy.
- keymone 9y ago
  ah, right, i don't aim that high :)

zeveb 9y ago

No reason this couldn't accept a content type of application/htsl (for hypertext S-expression language, of course). I proposed something like this in a comment of mine a couple of months back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14931277 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14931277

Fice 9y ago

Wouldn't that be "reinventing the flat tire"? The Web needs far more serious redesign than just replacing the syntaxes.