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Exactly. Rent seeking behavior, to extract more from tenants would be expected. This would spread. Causing other prices to rise.

by hpcjoe 9y ago

ianai 9y ago
There’s not going to be that much UBI to extract. Plus the assured UBI would empower people to move away from excise rent seekers.
- notyourday 9y ago
  UBI is going to go in the order of priority for: * roof over ones' head, no matter how shitty * food, no matter how shitty * minimum utilities * booze, drugs * other the first 3 would capture everything just as they do now.
- hpcjoe 9y ago
  I am going to assume I am more cynical than you on this. Rent seeking behavior is usually aimed hardest at those least likely to protest, or without resources to protest. Someone can rent seek another if the other person has no other effective choices, regardless of UBI or not. That is, UBI in isolation will likely fail. UBI is likely, at best, a bandaid, and should not be isolated. Should be part of a broader scope of programs that help people jumpstart a move, training, etc. That said, I do think we need it[1]. But it should be combined with other programs that help people (not redistributive programs per se, but things that help people do the things that they can't do or even consider doing now). [1] I think we need it, as disruption will continue across industries, geos, and will impact people in very negative ways. So we need a way for them to help themselves while they consider options. If this means helping them get mobile and settled at a new location, help finding a job, and training, that could be tremendous if linked with UBI.
- logfromblammo 9y ago
  Man, that's like trying to move to a state that has less nitrogen in its atmosphere. Rent-seekers are everywhere. If you go anywhere they currently are not, they will follow the scent of your wallet to wherever you end up.

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Exactly. Rent seeking behavior, to extract more from tenants would be expected. This would spread. Causing other prices to rise.

by hpcjoe 9y ago

Exactly. Rent seeking behavior, to extract more from tenants would be expected. This would spread. Causing other prices to rise.

ianai 9y ago
There’s not going to be that much UBI to extract. Plus the assured UBI would empower people to move away from excise rent seekers.
- notyourday 9y ago
  UBI is going to go in the order of priority for: * roof over ones' head, no matter how shitty * food, no matter how shitty * minimum utilities * booze, drugs * other the first 3 would capture everything just as they do now.
- hpcjoe 9y ago
  I am going to assume I am more cynical than you on this. Rent seeking behavior is usually aimed hardest at those least likely to protest, or without resources to protest. Someone can rent seek another if the other person has no other effective choices, regardless of UBI or not. That is, UBI in isolation will likely fail. UBI is likely, at best, a bandaid, and should not be isolated. Should be part of a broader scope of programs that help people jumpstart a move, training, etc. That said, I do think we need it[1]. But it should be combined with other programs that help people (not redistributive programs per se, but things that help people do the things that they can't do or even consider doing now). [1] I think we need it, as disruption will continue across industries, geos, and will impact people in very negative ways. So we need a way for them to help themselves while they consider options. If this means helping them get mobile and settled at a new location, help finding a job, and training, that could be tremendous if linked with UBI.
- logfromblammo 9y ago
  Man, that's like trying to move to a state that has less nitrogen in its atmosphere. Rent-seekers are everywhere. If you go anywhere they currently are not, they will follow the scent of your wallet to wherever you end up.