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WebExtensions in Firefox 57

6 points by stesch 9y ago

stesch 9y ago
Comments are interesting. The transition will hurt a lot. But I don't think that the market share will drop because some Chrome users will probably go back to Firefox while a minority will switch to Google Chrome.
- jhasse 9y ago
  Why should Chrome users go back to Firefox?
  - anotheryou 9y ago
    extentions still. Chrome always feels to me like a browser on a computer that's not mine. No themes, no hacky little things, no tree style tabs and of course always prompting me to connect my google account.
    - jhasse 9y ago
      Doesn't make any sense when extensions is the one thing that's getting worse with 57.
      - anotheryou 9y ago
        they are still more powerful than chromes, because mozilla made sure most of the popular extentions can get ported and surprisingly many do get ported.
        jhasse 9y ago
        Depends on the definition of "ported". If we mean no loss of features, than many many extensions won't be ported in time. All vertical tabs extensions for example. Every extension with a native context menu. Stuff like Fire Gestures, CTR, Beyond Australis, DownThemAll!, .... http://arewewebextensionsyet.com http://arewewebextensionsyet.com shows that still a lot of bug reports exist and even unported extensions. If you subtract the WebExtensions with missing functionality (even uBlock Origin isn't quite the same), you will see the most of the popular extensions are NOT ported. Also have a look at: http://fasezero.com/lastnotice.html http://fasezero.com/lastnotice.html
anotheryou 9y ago
transition took me a day, but surprisingly my most needed extentions could be replaced. I still muss vimperator/pentadactyl, but saka key is on a good, less intrusive way.
pasbesoin 9y ago
If I wanted another Chrome, I'd use Chrome. (And I do, for a subset of functionality.) Speed and stability and whatever mean nothing to me, if I can't e.g. do 2/3rds of what I did before. Anyway... Guess I'll be looking at the forks that continue to support what I actually do with the browser. Maybe just as well. Web-Bluetooth, web-USB, and like stuff coming down the pipe, just seem like new surface for exploits. Of course, in reality, I don't expect the forks to have support approaching what Mozilla can provide. So, I take on some more risk. I guess it's past time to look at dropping the browser into a VM, for a start. I'm going to pay now, in terms of time and effort, for having deferred my own action, earlier. Oh, well: Nothing like a deadline to get one moving.

6 points by stesch 9y ago

Comments are interesting. The transition will hurt a lot. But I don't think that the market share will drop because some Chrome users will probably go back to Firefox while a minority will switch to Google Chrome.

jhasse 9y ago
Why should Chrome users go back to Firefox?
- anotheryou 9y ago
  extentions still. Chrome always feels to me like a browser on a computer that's not mine. No themes, no hacky little things, no tree style tabs and of course always prompting me to connect my google account.
  - jhasse 9y ago
    Doesn't make any sense when extensions is the one thing that's getting worse with 57.
    - anotheryou 9y ago
      they are still more powerful than chromes, because mozilla made sure most of the popular extentions can get ported and surprisingly many do get ported.
      - jhasse 9y ago
        Depends on the definition of "ported". If we mean no loss of features, than many many extensions won't be ported in time. All vertical tabs extensions for example. Every extension with a native context menu. Stuff like Fire Gestures, CTR, Beyond Australis, DownThemAll!, .... http://arewewebextensionsyet.com http://arewewebextensionsyet.com shows that still a lot of bug reports exist and even unported extensions. If you subtract the WebExtensions with missing functionality (even uBlock Origin isn't quite the same), you will see the most of the popular extensions are NOT ported. Also have a look at: http://fasezero.com/lastnotice.html http://fasezero.com/lastnotice.html

anotheryou 9y ago

transition took me a day, but surprisingly my most needed extentions could be replaced. I still muss vimperator/pentadactyl, but saka key is on a good, less intrusive way.

pasbesoin 9y ago

If I wanted another Chrome, I'd use Chrome. (And I do, for a subset of functionality.) Speed and stability and whatever mean nothing to me, if I can't e.g. do 2/3rds of what I did before. Anyway... Guess I'll be looking at the forks that continue to support what I actually do with the browser. Maybe just as well. Web-Bluetooth, web-USB, and like stuff coming down the pipe, just seem like new surface for exploits. Of course, in reality, I don't expect the forks to have support approaching what Mozilla can provide. So, I take on some more risk. I guess it's past time to look at dropping the browser into a VM, for a start. I'm going to pay now, in terms of time and effort, for having deferred my own action, earlier. Oh, well: Nothing like a deadline to get one moving.