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It's a shame that it took so long before we started to truly study the positive uses/effects of drugs like MDMA and Psilocybin. I wonder how long it will take s

It's a shame that it took so long before we started to truly study the positive uses/effects of drugs like MDMA and Psilocybin. I wonder how long it will take society to really drop the "DARE/DRUGS ARE BAD" mentality and start having more rational discussions about this stuff.

twalla 9y ago
Probably around the same time the alcohol, pharma, and private prison industries stop throwing money at lobbyists if I had to guess.
- coretx 9y ago
  Revolutions happen when people cease to give a fuck. Stop being afraid for those who govern you and stop blaming the powers who govern. Constructive alternatives exist. There is brain-interfacing equipment at my desk worth 1000 USD tops. I buy MDMA, shrooms and similair substances for a couple of EUR per Gram and don't fear the possible consequences. What I desire though, is people who responsibly join me on my venture for science and humanity since I lack the knowledge and intellect to do a significant contribution on my own. The good news is that there is many like me working with people unlike me and the sharing of information is still mostly free. The tides are in our favour, but only for as long as people invest in it.
  - vongomben 9y ago
    Can you expand a little more the brain interfacing device part?
    - ceejayoz 9y ago
      Sounds like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulat..., which has a pretty extensive DIY scene.
      - civilitty 9y ago
        That's not brain interfacing tech. He's talking about wearable headsets like the Emotiv that let you control computers with your mind by training against EEG signals.
        ceejayoz 9y ago
        I'd argue "tech --> brain" is just as much an interface as "brain --> tech" is.
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rhizome 9y ago
Trump convinced a lot of principled and religious people to vote for him. The time you pine for will come some time after that is no longer possible.
striking 9y ago
IIRC, DARE had a slight opposite effect in communities where it was pushed hardest.
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- dragonwriter 9y ago
  In the studies I've seen, DARE had no measurable effect on either attitudes toward or use of drugs, and a slight effect of promotibg a positive view of law enforcement. So, functionally, it's pro-police PR sold to parents and voters as an anti-drug program.

twalla 9y ago

Probably around the same time the alcohol, pharma, and private prison industries stop throwing money at lobbyists if I had to guess.

coretx 9y ago
Revolutions happen when people cease to give a fuck. Stop being afraid for those who govern you and stop blaming the powers who govern. Constructive alternatives exist. There is brain-interfacing equipment at my desk worth 1000 USD tops. I buy MDMA, shrooms and similair substances for a couple of EUR per Gram and don't fear the possible consequences. What I desire though, is people who responsibly join me on my venture for science and humanity since I lack the knowledge and intellect to do a significant contribution on my own. The good news is that there is many like me working with people unlike me and the sharing of information is still mostly free. The tides are in our favour, but only for as long as people invest in it.
- vongomben 9y ago
  Can you expand a little more the brain interfacing device part?
  - ceejayoz 9y ago
    Sounds like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulat..., which has a pretty extensive DIY scene.
    - civilitty 9y ago
      That's not brain interfacing tech. He's talking about wearable headsets like the Emotiv that let you control computers with your mind by training against EEG signals.
      - ceejayoz 9y ago
        I'd argue "tech --> brain" is just as much an interface as "brain --> tech" is.
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rhizome 9y ago

Trump convinced a lot of principled and religious people to vote for him. The time you pine for will come some time after that is no longer possible.

striking 9y ago

IIRC, DARE had a slight opposite effect in communities where it was pushed hardest.

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dragonwriter 9y ago
In the studies I've seen, DARE had no measurable effect on either attitudes toward or use of drugs, and a slight effect of promotibg a positive view of law enforcement. So, functionally, it's pro-police PR sold to parents and voters as an anti-drug program.