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Assume, as the story implies, that they haven't the money to move. Moving costs money. Exactly what should they do? Channeling Marie Antoinette is obviously

by hpcjoe 9y ago

Assume, as the story implies, that they haven't the money to move. Moving costs money. Exactly what should they do? Channeling Marie Antoinette is obviously not the right answer (e.g. moving to the jobs) as they are functionally immobile, and as the article notes, they are disabled. Note: the above question is somewhat rhetorical. There is no real answer, or rather no easy answer. Basic income may help, or it may delay eventual help.

iamatworknow 9y ago
"I'm going to start explaining to people, when you have an area that just isn't working like upper New York state, where people are getting very badly hurt, and then you'll have another area 500 miles away where you can't get people, I'm going to explain, you can leave. It's OK. Don't worry about your house." http://www.timesunion.com/7day-business/article/Trump-says-upstate-New-Yorkers-should-move-leave-11437258.php http://www.timesunion.com/7day-business/article/Trump-says-u...
ianai 9y ago
Also the economy is pretty terrible in most places. That if anything should be the biggest backing for a UBI.
- thehardsphere 9y ago
  Really? We should subsidize broken economies in perpetuity, by allowing people to stay in them forever? I think that's only going to cement what we're already seeing, unless people use their UBI to buy luggage and bus fare.
  - ianai 9y ago
    Once people aren’t forced to labor for basic survival they will have options. Right now industry tends to be locality based and very insular. For instance, had Detroit had more than one major industry powering it then the collapse of manufacturing cars wouldn’t have hit them so critically. My point is UBI would increase peoples’ liberties with their time. Suddenly there could be all sorts of cottage industries built ip alongside the larger ones. In times of economic stress, like in all complex systems, diversity helps spread and diminish stress.

by hpcjoe 9y ago

iamatworknow 9y ago

"I'm going to start explaining to people, when you have an area that just isn't working like upper New York state, where people are getting very badly hurt, and then you'll have another area 500 miles away where you can't get people, I'm going to explain, you can leave. It's OK. Don't worry about your house." http://www.timesunion.com/7day-business/article/Trump-says-upstate-New-Yorkers-should-move-leave-11437258.php http://www.timesunion.com/7day-business/article/Trump-says-u...

ianai 9y ago

Also the economy is pretty terrible in most places. That if anything should be the biggest backing for a UBI.

thehardsphere 9y ago
Really? We should subsidize broken economies in perpetuity, by allowing people to stay in them forever? I think that's only going to cement what we're already seeing, unless people use their UBI to buy luggage and bus fare.
- ianai 9y ago
  Once people aren’t forced to labor for basic survival they will have options. Right now industry tends to be locality based and very insular. For instance, had Detroit had more than one major industry powering it then the collapse of manufacturing cars wouldn’t have hit them so critically. My point is UBI would increase peoples’ liberties with their time. Suddenly there could be all sorts of cottage industries built ip alongside the larger ones. In times of economic stress, like in all complex systems, diversity helps spread and diminish stress.