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@atYevP how much does the Backblaze business plan cost? Or rather, if I have 10TB on a NAS and a Linux machine, what would it cost to back that up to Backblaze

by buro9 9y ago

@atYevP how much does the Backblaze business plan cost? Or rather, if I have 10TB on a NAS and a Linux machine, what would it cost to back that up to Backblaze as a consumer given that you don't support this and I'd need to purchase the business thing?

votepaunchy 9y ago
$50/month at $0.005/GB/month. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html
- buro9 9y ago
  Aha! I thought B2 was like S3 and figured that Business Backup was what I needed. TIL.
  - brianwski 9y ago
    Brian from Backblaze here. > I thought B2 was like S3 It is. Backblaze actually has two separate product lines: 1) Online Backup for $5/month/computer where you have to use our client we wrote with all of it's policies. This is widely targeted at "ease of use" type customers. There is a free feature inside of "Online Backup" called "Groups" where one person can pay for many others. You can use this for a business, we absolutely do NOT charge differently just because it is a business. Or you can use "Groups" to pay for a family, or whatever. "Groups" is free, we honestly don't care if you use it or not. 2) Backblaze B2 - this is "object storage for half a penny per GByte per month". There are MANY clients available for you to choose from, you can see a list on this page: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/integrations.html https://www.backblaze.com/b2/integrations.html The idea here was many people kept approaching Backblaze saying they needed to store stuff cheaply, but didn't want to use our client, or maybe it wasn't "backup" they needed but to host live images on a website on the internet, stuff like that. So we built an API anybody can program to. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/docs/ https://www.backblaze.com/b2/docs/
atYevP 9y ago
Hey there! The business and consumer computer backup service have the same feature-set, so our business service would also not work with a NAS or Linux box. I'd recommend looking in to Backblaze B2. It'll be a bit more expensive as it's $0.005/GB but you'll have more control over your backups and lots of integrators make it easy.
- corobo 9y ago
  Is Linux backup support anywhere on the radar at all? I recently trimmed down my Backblaze licenses after switching to Linux installs, just went with s3 as s3cmd had a path of least resistance to storing backups. Would love to switch back if it's ever possible :)
  - ac29 9y ago
    Theyve repeatedly said no -- it breaks their business model to allow Linux machines (often servers) to backup "unlimited" data for $5/month. People with multi-hundred TB NAS machines would end that business model, quickly (see Amazon Cloud Drive, Crashplan, and others). But if youre using S3, just switch to B2, its per GB pricing, much cheaper than S3 and supports lots of Linux tools. I use rclone.
    - x4d66a5ce 9y ago
      I took the GP's remark about how he "went with s3 as s3cmd had a path of least resistance to storing backups" to mean that he considered B2 but opted for S3 since the latter offers a backup utility, but the former supports neither a "native" (e.g., git or rsync over SSH) backup interface, nor does it have a Linux client—the approach for backup on B2 from desktop Linux is to roll your own backup solution or use somebody else's client that has already added support for the B2 API. I'm pretty sure the right Linux backup solution is rsync.net, by the way, which does support a native (SSH) file access interface. For big backups, storage is (slightly less than) twice as expensive as S3, but unlike S3, there are no bandwidth costs.
      - 9y ago

by buro9 9y ago

votepaunchy 9y ago

$50/month at $0.005/GB/month. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html

buro9 9y ago
Aha! I thought B2 was like S3 and figured that Business Backup was what I needed. TIL.
- brianwski 9y ago
  Brian from Backblaze here. > I thought B2 was like S3 It is. Backblaze actually has two separate product lines: 1) Online Backup for $5/month/computer where you have to use our client we wrote with all of it's policies. This is widely targeted at "ease of use" type customers. There is a free feature inside of "Online Backup" called "Groups" where one person can pay for many others. You can use this for a business, we absolutely do NOT charge differently just because it is a business. Or you can use "Groups" to pay for a family, or whatever. "Groups" is free, we honestly don't care if you use it or not. 2) Backblaze B2 - this is "object storage for half a penny per GByte per month". There are MANY clients available for you to choose from, you can see a list on this page: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/integrations.html https://www.backblaze.com/b2/integrations.html The idea here was many people kept approaching Backblaze saying they needed to store stuff cheaply, but didn't want to use our client, or maybe it wasn't "backup" they needed but to host live images on a website on the internet, stuff like that. So we built an API anybody can program to. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/docs/ https://www.backblaze.com/b2/docs/

atYevP 9y ago

Hey there! The business and consumer computer backup service have the same feature-set, so our business service would also not work with a NAS or Linux box. I'd recommend looking in to Backblaze B2. It'll be a bit more expensive as it's $0.005/GB but you'll have more control over your backups and lots of integrators make it easy.

corobo 9y ago
Is Linux backup support anywhere on the radar at all? I recently trimmed down my Backblaze licenses after switching to Linux installs, just went with s3 as s3cmd had a path of least resistance to storing backups. Would love to switch back if it's ever possible :)
- ac29 9y ago
  Theyve repeatedly said no -- it breaks their business model to allow Linux machines (often servers) to backup "unlimited" data for $5/month. People with multi-hundred TB NAS machines would end that business model, quickly (see Amazon Cloud Drive, Crashplan, and others). But if youre using S3, just switch to B2, its per GB pricing, much cheaper than S3 and supports lots of Linux tools. I use rclone.
  - x4d66a5ce 9y ago
    I took the GP's remark about how he "went with s3 as s3cmd had a path of least resistance to storing backups" to mean that he considered B2 but opted for S3 since the latter offers a backup utility, but the former supports neither a "native" (e.g., git or rsync over SSH) backup interface, nor does it have a Linux client—the approach for backup on B2 from desktop Linux is to roll your own backup solution or use somebody else's client that has already added support for the B2 API. I'm pretty sure the right Linux backup solution is rsync.net, by the way, which does support a native (SSH) file access interface. For big backups, storage is (slightly less than) twice as expensive as S3, but unlike S3, there are no bandwidth costs.
    - 9y ago