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Who says it's right? An angry moustached guy in the first half of the 20th century thought for sure there was a master race and that killing everyone else proba
by mstade 9y ago
Who says it's right? An angry moustached guy in the first half of the 20th century thought for sure there was a master race and that killing everyone else probably was the right path. Another dude (incidentally also with a moustache) had this vision that the state should be the end-all-be-all and own everything, and killed a bunch of people including his own citizens to try to realize it – right around the same time as the aforementioned fella actually.
I mean, there's plenty of things wrong with trying to steer humanity on to the "right" path, and at the top of that list is probably the arrogant notion that you know what "right" is while others don't.
- adrianN 9y agoEverybody else is free to try and stop people whose idea of "right path" is incompatible with theirs. I just don't think that we should generally forbid everybody from trying to change the world.
- mstade 9y agoWell therein lies the problem, doesn't it? The notion that I have to stop someone just to live in peace. I mean, if people have visions for the world and think they're grand and all, that's perfectly fine. The problem starts when you try to impose (or steer, if you will) that vision on others, who may not be interested at all. Unless it's perennially opt-in, there will be conflict, and as history proves sometimes those get real ugly.
- yalph 9y agoThere is no problem here you dont have to be violent or hurt people to change the world. Let people try to do what they think is the best thing.
- Razengan 9y agoHow about the idea that everyone should be allowed to live in peace and pursue their interests without harming anything? Would it be wrong to "impose" that vision upon everyone? How is imposing universal laws, like "Don't murder", any different? Why don't we allow people to "opt-out" of things like, say, paying taxes? You see, one way or the other, you are already living under a "vision" of the world imposed by other people, decided for you before you even existed.
- coupdetaco 9y agoYou are a consumer, a borrower, a voter, a worker, et cetera. You have lots of power. Regardless of your feelings of not being at peace, civilization is absolutely a compromise. A world that avoids the compromises of civilization is not one that will be static and unchanging either. Society expects less of you than ever before. And are you not allowed to leave, as Christopher McCandless did (and other trancendentalists before him, more successfully). Plenty of mountain people operate under the assumption that they are entitled to be left alone, and they consider the US flag to be a flag of pirates. We should have room for those enclaves if their municipalities allow for them, I guess.
- adrianN 9y agoConflict is inherent to groups of people living together. There isn't much you can do about that.
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