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> So why are you delivering it at 11am when you know I'm at work? The driver has a 200-250 stop route optimized for efficiency, they attempt delivery when near

> So why are you delivering it at 11am when you know I'm at work? The driver has a 200-250 stop route optimized for efficiency, they attempt delivery when near your house. At 7pm a driver has been on the clock for over 10 hours; this is unlikely to change due to air delivery commitments. Over peak season 14 hour days (DoT limit) is very common, with a 14-hour delivery window it's simply not possible to get everyone's packages to them in the evening.

drusepth 9y ago
I wonder what the actual cost-difference would be to pay 7 guys working 2-hour 5pm-7pm days instead of every one guy working 14-hour days. If it's too high, I assume things like drone delivery will eventually replace deliverymen since they are more likely to not mind working evenings, nights, and weekends.
- BrentOzar 9y ago
  > I wonder what the actual cost-difference would be to pay 7 guys working 2-hour 5pm-7pm days instead of every one guy working 14-hour days. It's less about the guys, and more about the support infrastructure required for more delivery vehicles (even rented ones via the guys' salaries), insurance, more loading bays to get 7x more vehicles ready, more loading staff (or robots) to load 7x more vehicles, etc.
- DougWebb 9y ago
  They'd need to maintain seven trucks instead of one truck, with the much larger support system that would entail. Also they'd need more people working internal functions like HR due to the higher headcount. It's a lot more expensive than just the driver's salary.
- piquadrat 9y ago
  While the drones won't mind working at night or on weekends, I would certainly mind the relentless, high-pitched noise of drones delivering groceries and the latest new tech gadgets to my neighbours when I try to sleep or relax. Honestly, I dread the thought of hundreds or thousands of drones buzzing around the city on a daily basis. It's already pretty bad at many touristic spots because everybody needs their own little aerial video that nobody will ever watch.
- maxerickson 9y ago
  Yes, convenience demands that jobs be organized into 10 or 14 hour weeks. At least we can be confident that the people taking such shitty jobs have lots of leverage and will be well compensated!
- brewdad 9y ago
  Maybe a 7-9pm shift could make sense. A 5-7pm shift would result in drivers sitting in rush hour traffic and delivering very few packages. Or they could try a 5-7am shift. I'm sure no one would mind an early doorbell.

drusepth 9y ago

I wonder what the actual cost-difference would be to pay 7 guys working 2-hour 5pm-7pm days instead of every one guy working 14-hour days. If it's too high, I assume things like drone delivery will eventually replace deliverymen since they are more likely to not mind working evenings, nights, and weekends.

BrentOzar 9y ago
> I wonder what the actual cost-difference would be to pay 7 guys working 2-hour 5pm-7pm days instead of every one guy working 14-hour days. It's less about the guys, and more about the support infrastructure required for more delivery vehicles (even rented ones via the guys' salaries), insurance, more loading bays to get 7x more vehicles ready, more loading staff (or robots) to load 7x more vehicles, etc.
DougWebb 9y ago
They'd need to maintain seven trucks instead of one truck, with the much larger support system that would entail. Also they'd need more people working internal functions like HR due to the higher headcount. It's a lot more expensive than just the driver's salary.
piquadrat 9y ago
While the drones won't mind working at night or on weekends, I would certainly mind the relentless, high-pitched noise of drones delivering groceries and the latest new tech gadgets to my neighbours when I try to sleep or relax. Honestly, I dread the thought of hundreds or thousands of drones buzzing around the city on a daily basis. It's already pretty bad at many touristic spots because everybody needs their own little aerial video that nobody will ever watch.
maxerickson 9y ago
Yes, convenience demands that jobs be organized into 10 or 14 hour weeks. At least we can be confident that the people taking such shitty jobs have lots of leverage and will be well compensated!
brewdad 9y ago
Maybe a 7-9pm shift could make sense. A 5-7pm shift would result in drivers sitting in rush hour traffic and delivering very few packages. Or they could try a 5-7am shift. I'm sure no one would mind an early doorbell.