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> Why not deliver it at 7pm when I'm home from work? Maybe because most people would like to get deliveries outside of normal working hours, but you can't (and

> Why not deliver it at 7pm when I'm home from work? Maybe because most people would like to get deliveries outside of normal working hours, but you can't (and shouldn't) force all delivery people to work outside normal working hours?

xedarius 9y ago
Agreed, why not let me choose though.
- KGIII 9y ago
  I think their comment meant that you'd be choosing not just for you, but you would also be making that choice for the employees that had to deliver your stuff. The employees would still need to cover a diverse area and thus they'd need nearly the same number of employees to cover after-hours delivery. Though, maybe there is some sort of potential market there. Get your stuff shipped to a drop location and they will deliver it to you at your convenience.
- thexxy 9y ago
  or even better - let everyone involved choose. by everyone I mean the employer (which is also the product/service provider), the employees and the customers. if none of the employees will be willing to get $x for working at evening/night, then an increase in salary for those hours might solve the issue . how much to increase will depend upon supply and demand. if none of the customers want a night delivery then there's no need for that anyway, and the employer won't even bother trying to find a solution. if only a small amount of customers want a night delivery - then the employer might setup a solution where you need to pay 1.5x of the regular price in order for it to be profitable enough for the employer and the employees. if most customers want a night delivery - then the employer will need to make large adjustments in order to fulfill its customers' needs, or some other competitor will fill the gap.
- danmaz74 9y ago
  With a higher "overtime" price? Would be ok by me.
201709User 9y ago
You can absolutely force them. But you shouldn't.
tom_mellior 9y ago
> you can't (and shouldn't) force all delivery people to work outside normal working hours Ever been to a restaurant or bar in the evening or on a weekend? Ever taken a bus/train/flight in the evening or on a weekend? Congratulations, you have "forced" people to provide services to you "outside normal working hours". It's completely normal and absolutely acceptable for infrastructure to be provided at "odd" hours. Obviously, all those people must be paid extra for work outside "normal" hours. Personally, I would gladly pay more for a delivery I am more likely to actually receive.
- danmaz74 9y ago
  Yes I go to restaurants, and I pay a hefty extra for the service compared to the same products bought in a supermarket. Instead, when I buy online, I almost always get (and search for) free delivery.
  - danmaz74 9y ago
    LOL at the downvoters.
  - tom_mellior 9y ago
    > when I buy online, I almost always get (and search for) free delivery Me too, but that's mainly because the more expensive options are worse, in my experience. For example, "free" delivery by mail into my actual mailbox vs. "premium" delivery with a parcel service forcing me to be at home an entire day on which they might come by. I would pay extra for a premium service if it were actually better. (Agreed with your LOL at the downvoters.)
  - zuppy 9y ago
    No, you don't. You only pay the servers, what about the kitchen staff?
- krapp 9y ago
  >Obviously, all those people must be paid extra for work outside "normal" hours Amazon isn't likely to pay employees anything extra for working outside of "normal" hours, though.
dingaling 9y ago
But by buying from Amazon you force IT staff to wait on pager-duty, and warehouse staff to works nights, and lorry drivers and pilots to work in the wee small hours. And many more I've overlooked. So why do the last-mile delivery drivers get a break?
- smelterdemon 9y ago
  Because they have unions to protect them.

xedarius 9y ago

Agreed, why not let me choose though.

KGIII 9y ago
I think their comment meant that you'd be choosing not just for you, but you would also be making that choice for the employees that had to deliver your stuff. The employees would still need to cover a diverse area and thus they'd need nearly the same number of employees to cover after-hours delivery. Though, maybe there is some sort of potential market there. Get your stuff shipped to a drop location and they will deliver it to you at your convenience.
thexxy 9y ago
or even better - let everyone involved choose. by everyone I mean the employer (which is also the product/service provider), the employees and the customers. if none of the employees will be willing to get $x for working at evening/night, then an increase in salary for those hours might solve the issue . how much to increase will depend upon supply and demand. if none of the customers want a night delivery then there's no need for that anyway, and the employer won't even bother trying to find a solution. if only a small amount of customers want a night delivery - then the employer might setup a solution where you need to pay 1.5x of the regular price in order for it to be profitable enough for the employer and the employees. if most customers want a night delivery - then the employer will need to make large adjustments in order to fulfill its customers' needs, or some other competitor will fill the gap.
danmaz74 9y ago
With a higher "overtime" price? Would be ok by me.

201709User 9y ago

You can absolutely force them. But you shouldn't.

tom_mellior 9y ago

> you can't (and shouldn't) force all delivery people to work outside normal working hours Ever been to a restaurant or bar in the evening or on a weekend? Ever taken a bus/train/flight in the evening or on a weekend? Congratulations, you have "forced" people to provide services to you "outside normal working hours". It's completely normal and absolutely acceptable for infrastructure to be provided at "odd" hours. Obviously, all those people must be paid extra for work outside "normal" hours. Personally, I would gladly pay more for a delivery I am more likely to actually receive.

danmaz74 9y ago
Yes I go to restaurants, and I pay a hefty extra for the service compared to the same products bought in a supermarket. Instead, when I buy online, I almost always get (and search for) free delivery.
- danmaz74 9y ago
  LOL at the downvoters.
- tom_mellior 9y ago
  > when I buy online, I almost always get (and search for) free delivery Me too, but that's mainly because the more expensive options are worse, in my experience. For example, "free" delivery by mail into my actual mailbox vs. "premium" delivery with a parcel service forcing me to be at home an entire day on which they might come by. I would pay extra for a premium service if it were actually better. (Agreed with your LOL at the downvoters.)
- zuppy 9y ago
  No, you don't. You only pay the servers, what about the kitchen staff?
krapp 9y ago
>Obviously, all those people must be paid extra for work outside "normal" hours Amazon isn't likely to pay employees anything extra for working outside of "normal" hours, though.

dingaling 9y ago

But by buying from Amazon you force IT staff to wait on pager-duty, and warehouse staff to works nights, and lorry drivers and pilots to work in the wee small hours. And many more I've overlooked. So why do the last-mile delivery drivers get a break?

smelterdemon 9y ago
Because they have unions to protect them.