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Don Jr. personally admitted to meeting with Russians. [1] http://www.npr.org/2017/07/12/536782047/donald-trump-jr-admits-to-meeting-with-russian-lawyer http://

Don Jr. personally admitted to meeting with Russians. [1] http://www.npr.org/2017/07/12/536782047/donald-trump-jr-admits-to-meeting-with-russian-lawyer http://www.npr.org/2017/07/12/536782047/donald-trump-jr-admi...

peoplewindow 9y ago
"A lawyer who happened to be Russian" is not the same thing as "the Russians", the latter implying some sort of official Russian government conspiracy - presumably at vast scale, to affect something as large as the US election. I too would like to see this verifiable evidence. So far all evidence presented of so-called Russian "interference" isn't even remotely credible.
- state_less 9y ago
  > I too would like to see this verifiable evidence. He went to the meeting because Russians said they have dirt on Hilary and admitted it. Also, There was at least one Russian troll farm targeting voters. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/facebook-says-it-sold-political-ads-to-russian-company-during-2016-election/2017/09/06/32f01fd2-931e-11e7-89fa-bb822a46da5b_story.html?utm_term=.f3f8445812ed https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/facebook-says-it-sol... Russia also has a history of influencing elections in other countries.
  - peoplewindow 9y ago
    "Russians" didn't. A woman did. It turned out she had nothing and the meeting was a waste of time. Very far from what the phrase "meeting with the Russians" implies - some sort of large, organised group engaged in official Russian state business.
    - nl 9y ago
      Veselnitskaya is a paid member of a group registered to lobby against the Magnitsky act[1]. The group paying her was organized by a former GRU agent[2] and paid for by a Russian oligarch Denis Katsyv. Reversing the Magnitsky act is pretty much the number one thing the Russian government would like. Of course there is nothing wrong with this in itself. But while Veselnitskaya may not have been a Russian official, she was promoting official Russian policy and paid by politically connected Russian interests. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalia_Veselnitskaya#Advocacy_against_the_Magnitsky_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalia_Veselnitskaya#Advocacy... [2] https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/judiciary/upload/Russia%2C%2003-31-17%2C%20Magnitsky%20Act%20-%202016-%2007-15%20HCM%20Complaint%20to%20FARA%20%28003%29_Redacted.pdf https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/judiciar... (Note this complaint was made in 2016, before the election)
    - travmatt 9y ago
      It’s odd how you are trying to misrepresent and confuse other people about the truth.
- travmatt 9y ago
  "A lawyer who happened to be Russian" is an extraordinarily significant misrepresentation of who Natalia Veselnitskaya is.
  - VVayneTracker 9y ago
    She's "former" FSB. And there's no such thing as "former" FSB.

peoplewindow 9y ago

"A lawyer who happened to be Russian" is not the same thing as "the Russians", the latter implying some sort of official Russian government conspiracy - presumably at vast scale, to affect something as large as the US election. I too would like to see this verifiable evidence. So far all evidence presented of so-called Russian "interference" isn't even remotely credible.

state_less 9y ago
> I too would like to see this verifiable evidence. He went to the meeting because Russians said they have dirt on Hilary and admitted it. Also, There was at least one Russian troll farm targeting voters. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/facebook-says-it-sold-political-ads-to-russian-company-during-2016-election/2017/09/06/32f01fd2-931e-11e7-89fa-bb822a46da5b_story.html?utm_term=.f3f8445812ed https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/facebook-says-it-sol... Russia also has a history of influencing elections in other countries.
- peoplewindow 9y ago
  "Russians" didn't. A woman did. It turned out she had nothing and the meeting was a waste of time. Very far from what the phrase "meeting with the Russians" implies - some sort of large, organised group engaged in official Russian state business.
  - nl 9y ago
    Veselnitskaya is a paid member of a group registered to lobby against the Magnitsky act[1]. The group paying her was organized by a former GRU agent[2] and paid for by a Russian oligarch Denis Katsyv. Reversing the Magnitsky act is pretty much the number one thing the Russian government would like. Of course there is nothing wrong with this in itself. But while Veselnitskaya may not have been a Russian official, she was promoting official Russian policy and paid by politically connected Russian interests. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalia_Veselnitskaya#Advocacy_against_the_Magnitsky_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalia_Veselnitskaya#Advocacy... [2] https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/judiciary/upload/Russia%2C%2003-31-17%2C%20Magnitsky%20Act%20-%202016-%2007-15%20HCM%20Complaint%20to%20FARA%20%28003%29_Redacted.pdf https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/judiciar... (Note this complaint was made in 2016, before the election)
  - travmatt 9y ago
    It’s odd how you are trying to misrepresent and confuse other people about the truth.
travmatt 9y ago
"A lawyer who happened to be Russian" is an extraordinarily significant misrepresentation of who Natalia Veselnitskaya is.
- VVayneTracker 9y ago
  She's "former" FSB. And there's no such thing as "former" FSB.