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I don't think it's about the hole. Someone decided: - users would have a better experience if the mouse was wireless - if left to their own devices, users wil

I don't think it's about the hole. Someone decided: - users would have a better experience if the mouse was wireless - if left to their own devices, users will tend to leave the mouse plugged in and use it as a wired mouse so they solved that contradiction by taking away the option of missing out on wirelessness.

wlesieutre 9y ago
Can confirm I have a hybrid wired/wireless mouse (Logitech G700s) and I generally just leave it plugged in. Which works fine, so I'm glad Logitech decided not to be assholes about it.
- wlesieutre 9y ago
  Incidentally if anyone's looking for a mouse, Logitech really handles this perfectly. When it's plugged in to USB they use the cable for power + data so there's a tiny bit less latency and no worries about signal dropping. It switches the data to the wireless dongle automatically if the cable is unplugged. The mouse runs off of a single rechargable AA battery (came with an Eneloop brand NiMH which are well regarded). If your battery dies you can either plug it in to charge or just pull the battery and swap in a fresh one. Since it's a standard battery you can toss the dead one in a normal NiMH charger. A+ mouse, would recommend.
  - taternuts 9y ago
    I second the recommendation, been using a logitech performance MX mouse for probably 4-5 years now. My company gave out the apple mouse and I made them specially order the MX for me. I am a creature of comfort though as I did the same for my keyboard.
    - dylan-m 9y ago
      I did the same. I tried to use the Apple mouse for a couple months, I really did, but I felt my wrists turning into frozen fish and decided enough was enough. (This was the previous generation mouse where you needed to replace the AA batteries yourself, like a barbarian. Are the current ones shaped any differently at least?). Brought in my old Das Keyboard while I was at it. World of difference. And I don't feel any less cool, despite there being several physical buttons and a hole on the side of my mouse.
  - maxsilver 9y ago
    That solution is so well designed, you'd almost expect a company like Apple to come up with it. Especially since Apple made and sold their own NiMH batteries and chargers until 2016. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-battery-charger-white/1209916.p?skuId=1209916 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-battery-charger-white/120...
    - wlesieutre 9y ago
      Those batteries were actually also Eneloops (probably) https://www.engadget.com/2010/08/12/apples-rechargeable-aa-batteries-are-rebranded-sanyo-eneloops/ https://www.engadget.com/2010/08/12/apples-rechargeable-aa-b...
jackmott 9y ago
pfft
zeveb 9y ago
> users would have a better experience if the mouse was wireless Where 'better experience' is defined as 'not having a mouse until it charges back up'?
- firethief 9y ago
  I'm not agreeing with them, I'm just postulating that this is an example of Apple's creed of "our designers know better than our users".

wlesieutre 9y ago

Can confirm I have a hybrid wired/wireless mouse (Logitech G700s) and I generally just leave it plugged in. Which works fine, so I'm glad Logitech decided not to be assholes about it.

wlesieutre 9y ago
Incidentally if anyone's looking for a mouse, Logitech really handles this perfectly. When it's plugged in to USB they use the cable for power + data so there's a tiny bit less latency and no worries about signal dropping. It switches the data to the wireless dongle automatically if the cable is unplugged. The mouse runs off of a single rechargable AA battery (came with an Eneloop brand NiMH which are well regarded). If your battery dies you can either plug it in to charge or just pull the battery and swap in a fresh one. Since it's a standard battery you can toss the dead one in a normal NiMH charger. A+ mouse, would recommend.
- taternuts 9y ago
  I second the recommendation, been using a logitech performance MX mouse for probably 4-5 years now. My company gave out the apple mouse and I made them specially order the MX for me. I am a creature of comfort though as I did the same for my keyboard.
  - dylan-m 9y ago
    I did the same. I tried to use the Apple mouse for a couple months, I really did, but I felt my wrists turning into frozen fish and decided enough was enough. (This was the previous generation mouse where you needed to replace the AA batteries yourself, like a barbarian. Are the current ones shaped any differently at least?). Brought in my old Das Keyboard while I was at it. World of difference. And I don't feel any less cool, despite there being several physical buttons and a hole on the side of my mouse.
- maxsilver 9y ago
  That solution is so well designed, you'd almost expect a company like Apple to come up with it. Especially since Apple made and sold their own NiMH batteries and chargers until 2016. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-battery-charger-white/1209916.p?skuId=1209916 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-battery-charger-white/120...
  - wlesieutre 9y ago
    Those batteries were actually also Eneloops (probably) https://www.engadget.com/2010/08/12/apples-rechargeable-aa-batteries-are-rebranded-sanyo-eneloops/ https://www.engadget.com/2010/08/12/apples-rechargeable-aa-b...

jackmott 9y ago

pfft

zeveb 9y ago

> users would have a better experience if the mouse was wireless Where 'better experience' is defined as 'not having a mouse until it charges back up'?

firethief 9y ago
I'm not agreeing with them, I'm just postulating that this is an example of Apple's creed of "our designers know better than our users".