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> I'll give you a hint, though: most of them aren't rapists, murderers, and child molesters. HINT = 15% of the prison population in California are sex offende

> I'll give you a hint, though: most of them aren't rapists, murderers, and child molesters. HINT = 15% of the prison population in California are sex offenders.

throwawayfdf 9y ago
Which bass-ackwards definition of "most" are you using, friend?
alsetmusic 9y ago
>> I'll give you a hint, though: most of them aren't rapists, murderers, and child molesters. > HINT = 15% of the prison population in California are sex offenders. Rapists and child molesters would both fall under the sex offender category, meaning 85% of prisoners are not convicted of those crimes (according to your post, which lacks citation). Are you indicating that more than one in three California prisoners are convicted of murder? It sounds like you’re making a case for more than 35% of prisoners as murderes (15 + 35 = 50%). I’m not comfortable with that assumption without links to data.
- fisherjeff 9y ago
  This definitely doesn't support their point, but the State of California's report[0] turns out to be generally fascinating. More to the point of this thread, sex offenders and murderers make up ~26% of their prison population. [0] http://www.cdcr.ca.gov/Reports_Research/Offender_Information_Services_Branch/Annual/CalPris/CALPRISd2010.pdf http://www.cdcr.ca.gov/Reports_Research/Offender_Information... EDIT: homicide != murder
- newsmania 9y ago
  I learned from a cop that in New York, if you pee in a public place, you are a sex offender. Basically the cop said he would give the homeless people a citation for something else because it’s crazy to make someone a sex offender for that. I wonder how many of the sex offenders are a real danger to society, and how many just got put in due to the ridiculous amount of laws we have.
PhasmaFelis 9y ago
...So you agree? I'm confused.
- ghostbrainalpha 9y ago
  I was very unclear in that comment, I apologize. I was myself confused by the comment I was replying to. I don't like when people say "hint, most people x". I wanted to get better information about what the actual statistics were, because I didn't know what percent of the prison population were sex offenders, which was 15%. This is my source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/16/sex-offenders-killed-higher-rate-california-prison https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/16/sex-offender... I'm not sure what my position on this issue is. But it appears that a decent percentage of people in prison in California are serious criminals, and although some are definitely marijuana offenders that should probably be released, I don't think its fair to call that the majority of the people in the prison system.
literallycancer 9y ago
Might have something to do with labeling two teens that have sex as rapists.

> I'll give you a hint, though: most of them aren't rapists, murderers, and child molesters. HINT = 15% of the prison population in California are sex offenders.

throwawayfdf 9y ago

Which bass-ackwards definition of "most" are you using, friend?

alsetmusic 9y ago

>> I'll give you a hint, though: most of them aren't rapists, murderers, and child molesters. > HINT = 15% of the prison population in California are sex offenders. Rapists and child molesters would both fall under the sex offender category, meaning 85% of prisoners are not convicted of those crimes (according to your post, which lacks citation). Are you indicating that more than one in three California prisoners are convicted of murder? It sounds like you’re making a case for more than 35% of prisoners as murderes (15 + 35 = 50%). I’m not comfortable with that assumption without links to data.

fisherjeff 9y ago
This definitely doesn't support their point, but the State of California's report[0] turns out to be generally fascinating. More to the point of this thread, sex offenders and murderers make up ~26% of their prison population. [0] http://www.cdcr.ca.gov/Reports_Research/Offender_Information_Services_Branch/Annual/CalPris/CALPRISd2010.pdf http://www.cdcr.ca.gov/Reports_Research/Offender_Information... EDIT: homicide != murder
newsmania 9y ago
I learned from a cop that in New York, if you pee in a public place, you are a sex offender. Basically the cop said he would give the homeless people a citation for something else because it’s crazy to make someone a sex offender for that. I wonder how many of the sex offenders are a real danger to society, and how many just got put in due to the ridiculous amount of laws we have.

PhasmaFelis 9y ago

...So you agree? I'm confused.

ghostbrainalpha 9y ago
I was very unclear in that comment, I apologize. I was myself confused by the comment I was replying to. I don't like when people say "hint, most people x". I wanted to get better information about what the actual statistics were, because I didn't know what percent of the prison population were sex offenders, which was 15%. This is my source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/16/sex-offenders-killed-higher-rate-california-prison https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/16/sex-offender... I'm not sure what my position on this issue is. But it appears that a decent percentage of people in prison in California are serious criminals, and although some are definitely marijuana offenders that should probably be released, I don't think its fair to call that the majority of the people in the prison system.

literallycancer 9y ago

Might have something to do with labeling two teens that have sex as rapists.