Bingo. That's why so much of HN doesn't want to be held to the same standards as actual Professional Engineers - all the shady shit Google and Facebook and thei

Bingo. That's why so much of HN doesn't want to be held to the same standards as actual Professional Engineers - all the shady shit Google and Facebook and their ilk do is enabled because of the lack of personal accountability among the mercenaries who enable the giant surveillance apparatus to exist by implementing it. Then they come here and hand-wring over why privacy is dead or why it's really not so bad what they're doing over there, honest. The cognitive dissonance is palpable.