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You can bring some items, but you couldn't bring a telly etc. There was talk a while back about banning books being sent to prisioners, not sure what logic was

You can bring some items, but you couldn't bring a telly etc. There was talk a while back about banning books being sent to prisioners, not sure what logic was used for that one. I haven't been to prison in the UK or the US however what I've seen of both, the US system seems straight up about making money over anything else. I'd hope the UK system isn't this way although I fear it likely is going that way.

alkonaut 9y ago
This manual indicates the UK prison system is much more like the US system than I expected. e.g. shared prison cells.
- t90fan 9y ago
  thats more an artefact of the fact that most of our prisons were built in the 1800s. 2 in a cell is common. Until the 90s they never had indoor plumbing either, only buckets in the cells. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slopping_out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slopping_out
  - alex_hitchins 9y ago
    The following article is worth a read too on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Strangeways_Prison_riot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Strangeways_Prison_riot I believe it was the squalid conditions that sparked the unrest.
    - KGIII 9y ago
      There are a number of documentaries where the instigators cite conditions and staff abuses as the reason for the Strangeways Riot. The two most serious ringleaders are both now free, or were in the most recent doc, and are doing fairl well. One is fond of handing out papers with motivational or philosophical thoughts on them and the other now has his own gym.
cjrp 9y ago
> I'd hope the UK system isn't this way although I fear it likely is going that way I fear the same, for example: "On 16 December 2016, some 600 prisoners took part in a riot at HM Prison Birmingham, a prison in Birmingham, England, operated by G4S.[71] The disturbance was described as the worst in Britain since the 1990 Strangeways riot." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4S#Activities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4S#Activities

alkonaut 9y ago

This manual indicates the UK prison system is much more like the US system than I expected. e.g. shared prison cells.

t90fan 9y ago
thats more an artefact of the fact that most of our prisons were built in the 1800s. 2 in a cell is common. Until the 90s they never had indoor plumbing either, only buckets in the cells. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slopping_out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slopping_out
- alex_hitchins 9y ago
  The following article is worth a read too on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Strangeways_Prison_riot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Strangeways_Prison_riot I believe it was the squalid conditions that sparked the unrest.
  - KGIII 9y ago
    There are a number of documentaries where the instigators cite conditions and staff abuses as the reason for the Strangeways Riot. The two most serious ringleaders are both now free, or were in the most recent doc, and are doing fairl well. One is fond of handing out papers with motivational or philosophical thoughts on them and the other now has his own gym.

cjrp 9y ago

> I'd hope the UK system isn't this way although I fear it likely is going that way I fear the same, for example: "On 16 December 2016, some 600 prisoners took part in a riot at HM Prison Birmingham, a prison in Birmingham, England, operated by G4S.[71] The disturbance was described as the worst in Britain since the 1990 Strangeways riot." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4S#Activities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4S#Activities