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> Agile gives the programmer a voice in the process This is not my experience of "agile"; in practice, it's a conveyor belt of user stories in a feature factor
by barrkel 9y ago
> Agile gives the programmer a voice in the process
This is not my experience of "agile"; in practice, it's a conveyor belt of user stories in a feature factory, and developers are simply cogs in the meat grinder.
You can try and feed information in via estimates, sure, but that can only marginally change how the product evolves under the prevailing winds. Unless you give silly estimates, you have a hard time changing product management's mind much. And it's not a route for coming up with new features by recombining already existing work.
- zzalpha 9y agoyou have a hard time changing product management's mind much. I have pity for you that you have to live with such a shitty product manager. But don't think it reasonable to paint all PMs with that same brush. Conversely, I could claim all developers are flat-food-eating basement dwellers who can't communicate with real humans. But that wouldn't be very fair, either.
- pdimitar 9y agoI don't hate PMs per se, mind you, but my experience for 15 years of career is exactly the same. I have stumbled upon exactly 2 out of 70+ PMs that actually valued programmers' opinion and used it to change project roadmaps and schedules. ...and these 2 PMs didn't last even 6 months. Higher management is not happy when its prejudiced idealistic picture of productivity and feature deliveries is challenged by reality. A bit too cynical, I know. But it has been true in the majority of my office / freelance / consultant / remote work.