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far-right but not far-left, and the left will decide how far right you are. also will certain passages or holy books be deemed extremists or not. what of movi

far-right but not far-left, and the left will decide how far right you are. also will certain passages or holy books be deemed extremists or not. what of movies that they don't like, will those be banned?

danmaz74 9y ago
You're aware that Britain's government is from the right, aren't you?
- Y_Y 9y ago
  Not that they're universally defined, but I think the Tories would be left-of-centre in the US context even though they're considered right-wrong in the UK.
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  - danmaz74 9y ago
    Well, then also US Republicans would have been considered almost bolsheviks in the Third Reich, what with all this bullshit about voting and all... :D
- positivecomment 9y ago
  Apparently "all the censorship comes from the left" is the new "there is no global warming".
  - raverbashing 9y ago
    Censorship from the left is fine since the other side is "fascist"
  - jlebrech 9y ago
    only the left wants to ban words that trigger people.
    - flotillo 9y ago
      If you're referring to this proposal by the UK government, you should know that the Tories are a right-wing party. Your rants about "the left" are misguided.
- jlebrech 9y ago
  not right of centre, right of the left sure.
  - leohutson 9y ago
    It's not just the UK, this is the case for just about every western government, the US political system is definitely the eccentric here, if we are trying to find a global political centre, which is as close to an absolute as you are going to get.
- MisterPC 9y ago
  I'd say this is a bit misleading. It's centre-right. In the UK, centre-left or centre-right tends to be in terms of economic policy anyway. Nearly all UK parties have mostly centre-left social policies.
DanBC 9y ago
> far-right but not far-left This often comes up in these discussions. You need to realise that the far-right spawns much more violence (against individuals; against groups; against the state) than the far left. In the UK we recently saw an MP being murdered by a far right extremist; we've seen an increase in racially motivated violence against Muslims and Jews; we've seen small but violent demonstrations by far right organisations. This kind of stuff just isn't happening from the far left.
- tszymczyszyn 9y ago
  In these times it is not happening from the far left much but there are still exceptions (eg. Antifa). However, this can be explained by the prevalence of leftist views. It is mostly the right that feels compelled to use violence.
- vt100 9y ago
  It has in the past though. Pol Pot. The Chinese cultural revolution.
- gadders 9y ago
  We've also seen an increase in racially motivated violence by Muslims such as the Ariana Grande concert and the London Bridge attack. There have also been plenty of violent demonstration by left wing groups, so much so that a BBC reporter had to have a bodyguard at the Labour conference. Finally, anti-semitism seems to be as much a thing on the left as the extreme right these days, as shown by the anti-Semitism at the Labour conference.
- vixen99 9y ago
  Around 20% of UK murders are committed by migrants who comprise some 10% of the population (FOI data). Are these migrants mostly on the far right? The rule seems to be that they suffer some mental disability unlike of course the nutcase who murdered the MP.
- gspetr 9y ago
  > You need to realise that the far-right spawns much more violence (against individuals; against groups; against the state) than the far left. In the UK perhaps. The most recent attempt on a US Congressman's life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting#Perpetrator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_sh... On May 22, 2017, Hodgkinson wrote "Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It's Time to Destroy Trump & Co." above his repost of a Change.org petition demanding "the legal removal" of Trump and Vice President Mike Pence for "treason". He belonged to numerous politically-oriented Facebook groups, including those named "Terminate the Republican Party," "The Road To Hell Is Paved With Republicans," and "Donald Trump is not my President." When the media normalizes that "punching Nazis" is A-OK, this violence from very unhinged, disturbed individuals is the result.
peteretep 9y ago
> what of movies that they don't like, > will those be banned? "Is it a book that you would even wish your wife or your servants to read?" -- Mervyn Griffith-Jones at the obscenity trial of Lady Chatterley's Lover
- pjc50 9y ago
  .. which was the end of the old censorship regime and the point at which book, theatre and news censorship collapsed. In 1959.
  - peteretep 9y ago
    Yes, that's where it derives its relevance from.

danmaz74 9y ago

You're aware that Britain's government is from the right, aren't you?

Y_Y 9y ago
Not that they're universally defined, but I think the Tories would be left-of-centre in the US context even though they're considered right-wrong in the UK.
- deleted 9y ago
  [deleted]
- danmaz74 9y ago
  Well, then also US Republicans would have been considered almost bolsheviks in the Third Reich, what with all this bullshit about voting and all... :D
positivecomment 9y ago
Apparently "all the censorship comes from the left" is the new "there is no global warming".
- raverbashing 9y ago
  Censorship from the left is fine since the other side is "fascist"
- jlebrech 9y ago
  only the left wants to ban words that trigger people.
  - flotillo 9y ago
    If you're referring to this proposal by the UK government, you should know that the Tories are a right-wing party. Your rants about "the left" are misguided.
jlebrech 9y ago
not right of centre, right of the left sure.
- leohutson 9y ago
  It's not just the UK, this is the case for just about every western government, the US political system is definitely the eccentric here, if we are trying to find a global political centre, which is as close to an absolute as you are going to get.
MisterPC 9y ago
I'd say this is a bit misleading. It's centre-right. In the UK, centre-left or centre-right tends to be in terms of economic policy anyway. Nearly all UK parties have mostly centre-left social policies.

DanBC 9y ago

> far-right but not far-left This often comes up in these discussions. You need to realise that the far-right spawns much more violence (against individuals; against groups; against the state) than the far left. In the UK we recently saw an MP being murdered by a far right extremist; we've seen an increase in racially motivated violence against Muslims and Jews; we've seen small but violent demonstrations by far right organisations. This kind of stuff just isn't happening from the far left.

tszymczyszyn 9y ago
In these times it is not happening from the far left much but there are still exceptions (eg. Antifa). However, this can be explained by the prevalence of leftist views. It is mostly the right that feels compelled to use violence.
vt100 9y ago
It has in the past though. Pol Pot. The Chinese cultural revolution.
gadders 9y ago
We've also seen an increase in racially motivated violence by Muslims such as the Ariana Grande concert and the London Bridge attack. There have also been plenty of violent demonstration by left wing groups, so much so that a BBC reporter had to have a bodyguard at the Labour conference. Finally, anti-semitism seems to be as much a thing on the left as the extreme right these days, as shown by the anti-Semitism at the Labour conference.
vixen99 9y ago
Around 20% of UK murders are committed by migrants who comprise some 10% of the population (FOI data). Are these migrants mostly on the far right? The rule seems to be that they suffer some mental disability unlike of course the nutcase who murdered the MP.
gspetr 9y ago
> You need to realise that the far-right spawns much more violence (against individuals; against groups; against the state) than the far left. In the UK perhaps. The most recent attempt on a US Congressman's life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting#Perpetrator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_sh... On May 22, 2017, Hodgkinson wrote "Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It's Time to Destroy Trump & Co." above his repost of a Change.org petition demanding "the legal removal" of Trump and Vice President Mike Pence for "treason". He belonged to numerous politically-oriented Facebook groups, including those named "Terminate the Republican Party," "The Road To Hell Is Paved With Republicans," and "Donald Trump is not my President." When the media normalizes that "punching Nazis" is A-OK, this violence from very unhinged, disturbed individuals is the result.

peteretep 9y ago

> what of movies that they don't like, > will those be banned? "Is it a book that you would even wish your wife or your servants to read?" -- Mervyn Griffith-Jones at the obscenity trial of Lady Chatterley's Lover

pjc50 9y ago
.. which was the end of the old censorship regime and the point at which book, theatre and news censorship collapsed. In 1959.
- peteretep 9y ago
  Yes, that's where it derives its relevance from.