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Weak straw-man assimilation fallacy. Chicago has plenty of restrictions on guns but still has an extremely high violence rate, guns and otherwise.

oliwarner 9y ago
It's much harder to be an accidental fatality in a gang knife fight. Things are safer when there aren't 8g chunks of supersonic lead flying around. There's still as much gun crime in the US as there is —even where there are regulations— because there are still guns. In direct circulation or coming in from other states. Criminals tend to not care too much about restrictions. If they want a gun and can steal a gun, they can have a gun. Gun control works elsewhere because we do it nationally and then get rid of all* the guns. It takes decades and insanely strong punishments. We still have criminals, we still have knives and acid and lorries and explosive precursors. All nasty stuff, but a power of magnitude when it comes to general safety of the rest of us. * Most guns anyway. I have a shotgun but you can have rifles and there are a very, very few handgun exceptions for the right people. With all of these, there are restrictions on things like barrel length and magazine size on all guns and even more restrictions on types of ammo, and how much you can own. Not to mention the interview and home office check you get before you're allowed anything.
- Clubber 9y ago
  >Most guns anyway. I have a shotgun but you can have rifles I would argue that rifles are more a tool for hunting than a shotgun. Germany wanted to ban shotguns (trench guns) the allies used in WWI because of their devastating effects. Shotguns are also a good tool for hunting birds and whatnot. There are many places in the US where people hunt for cheap food. Pistols aren't ideal for any kind of hunting though. They're almost exclusively for self defense (and the majority of guns used in homicides). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_Sta...

oliwarner 9y ago

It's much harder to be an accidental fatality in a gang knife fight. Things are safer when there aren't 8g chunks of supersonic lead flying around. There's still as much gun crime in the US as there is —even where there are regulations— because there are still guns. In direct circulation or coming in from other states. Criminals tend to not care too much about restrictions. If they want a gun and can steal a gun, they can have a gun. Gun control works elsewhere because we do it nationally and then get rid of all* the guns. It takes decades and insanely strong punishments. We still have criminals, we still have knives and acid and lorries and explosive precursors. All nasty stuff, but a power of magnitude when it comes to general safety of the rest of us. * Most guns anyway. I have a shotgun but you can have rifles and there are a very, very few handgun exceptions for the right people. With all of these, there are restrictions on things like barrel length and magazine size on all guns and even more restrictions on types of ammo, and how much you can own. Not to mention the interview and home office check you get before you're allowed anything.

Clubber 9y ago
>Most guns anyway. I have a shotgun but you can have rifles I would argue that rifles are more a tool for hunting than a shotgun. Germany wanted to ban shotguns (trench guns) the allies used in WWI because of their devastating effects. Shotguns are also a good tool for hunting birds and whatnot. There are many places in the US where people hunt for cheap food. Pistols aren't ideal for any kind of hunting though. They're almost exclusively for self defense (and the majority of guns used in homicides). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_Sta...