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We actually have a lot of tools to address this issue, we just haven't deployed them (yet). I can't say too much publicly about it, but many of the methods use
by SomeStupidPoint 9y ago
We actually have a lot of tools to address this issue, we just haven't deployed them (yet).
I can't say too much publicly about it, but many of the methods used elsewhere for security, for summarization, and for content generation have applications in this field -- ones that are being actively researched to defend against these sorts of abuses without destroying our ideals (such as free speech).
Part of the problem is that many of us pulled away into our own little worlds following 9/11, the Patriot Act, Snowden's leaks, etc. (I did! I worked in adtech making this all worse instead of engaging with, eg non-profits, government, etc to make it better.) So we weren't actively engaged in developing these solutions earlier and we left a gap in the national infrastructure.
If you'd like, I could reach out to you privately to discuss some ideas in a little more detail...?
- dv_dt 9y agoIf the tools and how they operate are secret, then it seems problematic in itself. If the tools make decisions to automate the "steering" of what information is seen then the mechanism could become compromised from within or without couldn't it? Of course if they're secret only because they're still in the middle of being formulated, that's different...
- SomeStupidPoint 9y agoI would happily discuss it with anyone on HN -- it's not secret techniques (and we agree such are problematic), we're simply not ready for the attention posting publicly on HN would bring. A lot of internal docs use internal jargon, but that's not helpful explaining the idea to others -- so we're in a "productizing" phase and part of that is private conversation with interested parties to (eg) practice/refine explanations. Sorry for "announcement of announcement", but check back 18Q1 if you only want to discuss it on HN.
- pilsetnieks 9y agoIt's too secret to discuss in public but not secret enough to discuss "privately" with a complete stranger? It feels like either you've got your priorities wrong, or it's some kind of a scam, spam, or phishing attempt.
- SomeStupidPoint 9y agoIt's not secret, we just don't want a spotlight yet. There's a difference.