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I switched to Fastmail. Note that my main concern was being banned by Google, so security/privacy wasn't my focus. I say that because I believe Fastmail is stil

I switched to Fastmail. Note that my main concern was being banned by Google, so security/privacy wasn't my focus. I say that because I believe Fastmail is still in the US[1], which brings up privacy concerns imo. Recently on HN I saw another email provider that offered fully encrypted email, perhaps end to end, but I've already committed to Fastmail so I didn't follow up with them too much. I'm happy with Fastmail fwiw, and happily support them. [1]: https://blog.fastmail.com/2013/10/07/fastmails-servers-are-in-the-us-what-this-means-for-you/ https://blog.fastmail.com/2013/10/07/fastmails-servers-are-i...

grzm 9y ago
Fastmail is based in Australia. https://www.fastmail.com/about/company.html https://www.fastmail.com/about/company.html
- notheguyouthink 9y ago
  Hmm, I'll have to do more research, but I thought they used some American hosting. Perhaps I'm mistaken! I'll make a note in the comment, ty! edit: I take that back, I'm not wrong, yay \o/. https://blog.fastmail.com/2013/10/07/fastmails-servers-are-in-the-us-what-this-means-for-you/ https://blog.fastmail.com/2013/10/07/fastmails-servers-are-i... They are in the US, it's just that the company itself isn't. So depending on your level of distrust of the US, that may or may not be an issue for you.
  - narrowrail 9y ago
    If you think you are safer from the NSA because a server is located outside the US, I've got some bad news for you: outside of the US, the NSA can do whatever they want as the US Constitution has no jurisdiction. Whether or not they are abusing the law within the US is up for debate, but outside the US there is nothing to stop them except technology.
    - notheguyouthink 9y ago
      That's fair - I wasn't raising it as a personal concern however, I was raising it because I've seen many other concerned about US involvements. With that said, do you feel there's no difference in security when having servers in, or outside of the US? A lot of people seem to distrust US involvement, and prefer out of US as much as possible. Do you think this is completely bunk, because the NSA is so unstoppable? To me it just seems like being in the US just adds to possible problems. Thoughts?

grzm 9y ago

Fastmail is based in Australia. https://www.fastmail.com/about/company.html https://www.fastmail.com/about/company.html

notheguyouthink 9y ago
Hmm, I'll have to do more research, but I thought they used some American hosting. Perhaps I'm mistaken! I'll make a note in the comment, ty! edit: I take that back, I'm not wrong, yay \o/. https://blog.fastmail.com/2013/10/07/fastmails-servers-are-in-the-us-what-this-means-for-you/ https://blog.fastmail.com/2013/10/07/fastmails-servers-are-i... They are in the US, it's just that the company itself isn't. So depending on your level of distrust of the US, that may or may not be an issue for you.
- narrowrail 9y ago
  If you think you are safer from the NSA because a server is located outside the US, I've got some bad news for you: outside of the US, the NSA can do whatever they want as the US Constitution has no jurisdiction. Whether or not they are abusing the law within the US is up for debate, but outside the US there is nothing to stop them except technology.
  - notheguyouthink 9y ago
    That's fair - I wasn't raising it as a personal concern however, I was raising it because I've seen many other concerned about US involvements. With that said, do you feel there's no difference in security when having servers in, or outside of the US? A lot of people seem to distrust US involvement, and prefer out of US as much as possible. Do you think this is completely bunk, because the NSA is so unstoppable? To me it just seems like being in the US just adds to possible problems. Thoughts?