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If you are X% less productive you will be able to charge X% less for your work, on average, so you would need to work longer hours for the same pay. You might a

by jules 9y ago

If you are X% less productive you will be able to charge X% less for your work, on average, so you would need to work longer hours for the same pay. You might also be shortening your life by not sleeping enough, perhaps by a larger amount than you're gaining by sleeping less. That is clearly the case in the limit of not sleeping at all -- you would shorten your life to a month at best, not to mention that the quality of life would go down.

rightos 9y ago
> If you are X% less productive you will be able to charge X% less for your work, on average, so you would need to work longer hours for the same pay. That's making the huge assumption that you're willing to constantly seek your maximum pay and that you get paid solely for your measurable productivity output, which is in my experience very rarely the case. More often than not you get paid based on capabilities and responsibilities, not significantly more or less on your output. It's certainly not a direct X% less productive = X% less pay relationship. I believe it's been shown that seeking new employers is the best way to maximize pay, but that means interviews are often the difference between you and more pay, yet no one can judge future productivity in an interview. > you would shorten your life to a month at best To my knowledge, sleep dep hasn't actually killed people directly like this, they simply start sleeping.
- jane_pl 9y ago
  >To my knowledge, sleep dep hasn't actually killed people directly like this, they simply start sleeping. Actually, there is at least one example, surely there are more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/man-dies-11-days-no-sleep-deprivation-jiang-xiaoshan_n_1631703.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/man-dies-11-days-no...
  - kaybe 9y ago
    There is a somewhat rare genetic disease where at some point in their life people can't sleep any more and eventually die from it. So yes, there are more.
watwut 9y ago
"If you are X% less productive you will be able to charge X% less for your work" That is not how it works practically. Less productive people don't get less salaries, unless their productivity is going really really down. Most companies use hours spend at work as proxy for productivity for salary purposes. Oftentimes you may look like super productive cause you are fixing a lot of bugs or constantly runing meetings. That bug were cause by you or those meetings could be half shorter is something superiors rarely see. It is just hard to measure exact productivity.

by jules 9y ago

rightos 9y ago

> If you are X% less productive you will be able to charge X% less for your work, on average, so you would need to work longer hours for the same pay. That's making the huge assumption that you're willing to constantly seek your maximum pay and that you get paid solely for your measurable productivity output, which is in my experience very rarely the case. More often than not you get paid based on capabilities and responsibilities, not significantly more or less on your output. It's certainly not a direct X% less productive = X% less pay relationship. I believe it's been shown that seeking new employers is the best way to maximize pay, but that means interviews are often the difference between you and more pay, yet no one can judge future productivity in an interview. > you would shorten your life to a month at best To my knowledge, sleep dep hasn't actually killed people directly like this, they simply start sleeping.

jane_pl 9y ago
>To my knowledge, sleep dep hasn't actually killed people directly like this, they simply start sleeping. Actually, there is at least one example, surely there are more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/man-dies-11-days-no-sleep-deprivation-jiang-xiaoshan_n_1631703.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/man-dies-11-days-no...
- kaybe 9y ago
  There is a somewhat rare genetic disease where at some point in their life people can't sleep any more and eventually die from it. So yes, there are more.

watwut 9y ago

"If you are X% less productive you will be able to charge X% less for your work" That is not how it works practically. Less productive people don't get less salaries, unless their productivity is going really really down. Most companies use hours spend at work as proxy for productivity for salary purposes. Oftentimes you may look like super productive cause you are fixing a lot of bugs or constantly runing meetings. That bug were cause by you or those meetings could be half shorter is something superiors rarely see. It is just hard to measure exact productivity.