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"Never before in history has such destruction been caused by a single person."

ianai 9y ago
If trump succeeds in destroying the US he’ll have Hitler beat. Edit- I find it funny I’m being downvoted. If you destroy what destroyed the previous biggest problem then you were clearly a bigger problem than the original. And when Bannon talks about deconstructing the state that’s exactly what he means.
- ImSkeptical 9y ago
  Hitler wanted to murder populations based on their ethnicity, and conquer Europe. Bannon wants a smaller federal government limited by a more originalist interpretation of the constitution and less immigration. Those aren't the same things.
  - vikiomega9 9y ago
    To be fair Hitler's rhetoric escalated pretty quickly
    - ImSkeptical 9y ago
      I'm not a historian, but I believe Hitler expressed his anti-Semitic ideas quite clearly in his book prior to taking power. Hitler was involved in violent attempts at revolution, and murdering political opponents and rivals prior to taking power. Bannon ran an unorthodox campaign premised on populism and nationalism. That's quite different. The harm in equating Bannon and Trump with Hitler stems from the charge not being true. The harm includes the fact that nearly half the country supports Trump, and you are (unfairly) equating them with Nazis. This is quite polarizing for politics, in addition to being unjustified.
  - ianai 9y ago
    That’s what he says he wants, now. He still says he wants to deconstruct the government. There’s no other way to describe destruction of a government from the inside. He also shows no sign of wanting to stop anywhere.
    - ImSkeptical 9y ago
      Shouldn't we judge people on what they say and do, and not what you fear they secretly want? Considering Steve Bannon as being essentially similar to Hitler is a failure in reasoning that borders on pathological.
    - colemannugent 9y ago
      Are you trying to equivocate Bannon's views of the role of government with anarchy? Do you apply the same reasoning to anyone advocating for more centralized government control and suggest they want a communist state with complete government control?
      - ianai 9y ago
        In view of what Donald Trump has done and weighed with the views expressed by Steve Bannon, Trump's presidency seems to be destroying the US government, at worst, or grossly mismanaging it, at best. For one, consider the wholesale dismantling of the State Department. For two, the continued lack of political appointments to positions throughout the government. He fired all of the US Attorneys.
tomcam 9y ago
That bothered me too. Stalin and Mao have him beat by a long shot.

If trump succeeds in destroying the US he’ll have Hitler beat. Edit- I find it funny I’m being downvoted. If you destroy what destroyed the previous biggest problem then you were clearly a bigger problem than the original. And when Bannon talks about deconstructing the state that’s exactly what he means.

ImSkeptical 9y ago
Hitler wanted to murder populations based on their ethnicity, and conquer Europe. Bannon wants a smaller federal government limited by a more originalist interpretation of the constitution and less immigration. Those aren't the same things.
- vikiomega9 9y ago
  To be fair Hitler's rhetoric escalated pretty quickly
  - ImSkeptical 9y ago
    I'm not a historian, but I believe Hitler expressed his anti-Semitic ideas quite clearly in his book prior to taking power. Hitler was involved in violent attempts at revolution, and murdering political opponents and rivals prior to taking power. Bannon ran an unorthodox campaign premised on populism and nationalism. That's quite different. The harm in equating Bannon and Trump with Hitler stems from the charge not being true. The harm includes the fact that nearly half the country supports Trump, and you are (unfairly) equating them with Nazis. This is quite polarizing for politics, in addition to being unjustified.
- ianai 9y ago
  That’s what he says he wants, now. He still says he wants to deconstruct the government. There’s no other way to describe destruction of a government from the inside. He also shows no sign of wanting to stop anywhere.
  - ImSkeptical 9y ago
    Shouldn't we judge people on what they say and do, and not what you fear they secretly want? Considering Steve Bannon as being essentially similar to Hitler is a failure in reasoning that borders on pathological.
  - colemannugent 9y ago
    Are you trying to equivocate Bannon's views of the role of government with anarchy? Do you apply the same reasoning to anyone advocating for more centralized government control and suggest they want a communist state with complete government control?
    - ianai 9y ago
      In view of what Donald Trump has done and weighed with the views expressed by Steve Bannon, Trump's presidency seems to be destroying the US government, at worst, or grossly mismanaging it, at best. For one, consider the wholesale dismantling of the State Department. For two, the continued lack of political appointments to positions throughout the government. He fired all of the US Attorneys.

tomcam 9y ago

That bothered me too. Stalin and Mao have him beat by a long shot.