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> My point is programmers already shouldn't want to work there, but it's Amazon, so. I don't understand how you can make a blanket statement like that. Why sho

> My point is programmers already shouldn't want to work there, but it's Amazon, so. I don't understand how you can make a blanket statement like that. Why should programmers not want to work there?

sp527 9y ago
Amazon has developed a public reputation for being an intense environment where employees are generally overworked [0]. Unsurprisingly, (based on conversations with engineers I know there) it varies depending on your team and even geographic location. But, based on the anecdotal data and the reporting that’s been done, it sounds like you can end up really miserable if you get screwed. [0] https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/technology/inside-amazon-wrestling-big-ideas-in-a-bruising-workplace.html?referer= https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/technology/inside-amaz...
- notyourwork 9y ago
  You can end up really miserable at any company that has a toxic team. This isn't unique to Amazon. I tend to think companies are on a spectrum where you have a few bad apples, a few exceptionally great teams and a most fall into the average like everywhere else in the world.
  - ntsplnkv2 9y ago
    Many companies don't have the reputation Amazon does. Not everything can be explained away with "it can happen everywhere." There's too many stories, cases, and anecdotes about working there to ignore.
  - jrs95 9y ago
    It doesn't even take an entire toxic team! One bad person, usually a manager, can fuck the whole thing up.
whipoodle 9y ago
Because it seems like a nightmare based on many things, but, again, you always get the people that are like "my team is amazing and full of geniuses who ship everything on time and never disagree". Look, if you want to work there, go nuts. It seems like a mostly bad place to me. I'm sorry for that "blanket statement". (Of course if I said it seems like a great place to work that would be just fine.)

> My point is programmers already shouldn't want to work there, but it's Amazon, so. I don't understand how you can make a blanket statement like that. Why should programmers not want to work there?

sp527 9y ago

Amazon has developed a public reputation for being an intense environment where employees are generally overworked [0]. Unsurprisingly, (based on conversations with engineers I know there) it varies depending on your team and even geographic location. But, based on the anecdotal data and the reporting that’s been done, it sounds like you can end up really miserable if you get screwed. [0] https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/technology/inside-amazon-wrestling-big-ideas-in-a-bruising-workplace.html?referer= https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/technology/inside-amaz...

notyourwork 9y ago
You can end up really miserable at any company that has a toxic team. This isn't unique to Amazon. I tend to think companies are on a spectrum where you have a few bad apples, a few exceptionally great teams and a most fall into the average like everywhere else in the world.
- ntsplnkv2 9y ago
  Many companies don't have the reputation Amazon does. Not everything can be explained away with "it can happen everywhere." There's too many stories, cases, and anecdotes about working there to ignore.
- jrs95 9y ago
  It doesn't even take an entire toxic team! One bad person, usually a manager, can fuck the whole thing up.

whipoodle 9y ago

Because it seems like a nightmare based on many things, but, again, you always get the people that are like "my team is amazing and full of geniuses who ship everything on time and never disagree". Look, if you want to work there, go nuts. It seems like a mostly bad place to me. I'm sorry for that "blanket statement". (Of course if I said it seems like a great place to work that would be just fine.)