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You're implying that the US is sane. If we tried smart ID cards here, half the population would have a meltdown over the Mark of the Beast of 1984 or "papers, p

You're implying that the US is sane. If we tried smart ID cards here, half the population would have a meltdown over the Mark of the Beast of 1984 or "papers, please" or something.

JPKab 9y ago
Let's not forget the other half of the population that would scream how discriminatory the ID card requirement is against certain populations who can't easily get to the offices where they are given out. We have this debate currently with requirements for ID at polling stations.
- danudey 9y ago
  A national ID card would be better for those kinds of people. You'd get one once and then be able to vote with it and you wouldn't have people at polling stations lying to you about what ID you needed. It wouldn't stop the issue of Republicans closing polling stations in minority communities, but it's a start.
- yahna 9y ago
  Except that debate is dishonest because if the republicans actually cared about voter security the obvious response to "minorities don't have access to ID" is "okay, lets fund a program to get everyone ID". Of course the democrats fall for the trap every time, because using security as an excuse for taking away rights is almost as good as using child porn as an excuse for censorship and monitoring. People go "oh yeah, that sounds reasonable"
snerbles 9y ago
I wouldn't be surprised if dismissals similar to yours were made to those concerned about the IBM's tabulation machines arriving in 1930s Germany.
tryingagainbro 9y ago
what is the problem that needs to be solved differently? IRS that collects TRILLIONS a year gave a $7.25 MILLION contract to connect a few dots to a company that can. Do you realize how little is $7.25m to USA? About 3-4 Tomahawk missiles and that money probably paid for itself several times over (probably to ID tax "cheaters".)

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You're implying that the US is sane. If we tried smart ID cards here, half the population would have a meltdown over the Mark of the Beast of 1984 or "papers, p

by thomascgalvin 9y ago

You're implying that the US is sane. If we tried smart ID cards here, half the population would have a meltdown over the Mark of the Beast of 1984 or "papers, please" or something.

JPKab 9y ago
Let's not forget the other half of the population that would scream how discriminatory the ID card requirement is against certain populations who can't easily get to the offices where they are given out. We have this debate currently with requirements for ID at polling stations.
- danudey 9y ago
  A national ID card would be better for those kinds of people. You'd get one once and then be able to vote with it and you wouldn't have people at polling stations lying to you about what ID you needed. It wouldn't stop the issue of Republicans closing polling stations in minority communities, but it's a start.
- yahna 9y ago
  Except that debate is dishonest because if the republicans actually cared about voter security the obvious response to "minorities don't have access to ID" is "okay, lets fund a program to get everyone ID". Of course the democrats fall for the trap every time, because using security as an excuse for taking away rights is almost as good as using child porn as an excuse for censorship and monitoring. People go "oh yeah, that sounds reasonable"
snerbles 9y ago
I wouldn't be surprised if dismissals similar to yours were made to those concerned about the IBM's tabulation machines arriving in 1930s Germany.
tryingagainbro 9y ago
what is the problem that needs to be solved differently? IRS that collects TRILLIONS a year gave a $7.25 MILLION contract to connect a few dots to a company that can. Do you realize how little is $7.25m to USA? About 3-4 Tomahawk missiles and that money probably paid for itself several times over (probably to ID tax "cheaters".)