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One can safely assume that the opposite stance to Oracle on any given policy is what is best for Humanity, one can also safely assume that taking a polar opposi

by syshum 9y ago

One can safely assume that the opposite stance to Oracle on any given policy is what is best for Humanity, one can also safely assume that taking a polar opposite position to Oracle on any subject will be the Ethical and moral position.

yahna 9y ago
No, this is unfair. THe oracle stance is based on what's best for Oracle, always. This is not immoral or evil, it is completely amoral. They might occasionally be on the right side. It's just coincidence though.
- syshum 9y ago
  For most companies you are correct, they are simply amoral profit seekers. Oracle however is a different breed that cross from simply being amoral to something decidedly different Even a cursory look at how they treat employees, customers, vendors, or anyone really will show this in clear detail that they operate differently then other amoral companies. Oracle is a special kind of evil IMO >>>They might occasionally be on the right side. Name one time they have been on the "right side" I can not. You are correct that a traditional amoral company will sometimes be on the "right side" and sometimes not. Oracle has a perfect record on being on the "wrong side" proving my point above
  - plag 9y ago
    >>> Oracle has a perfect record on being on the "wrong side" proving my point above This might just be a huge list of coincidences :D
  - yahna 9y ago
    My point was that you're anthropomorphizing the lawnmower when you say that oracle is evil.
ocdtrekkie 9y ago
I downvoted this not because I like Oracle, but because this is a terrible way to think. If you're not qualified to determine the value of a statement based on it's contents, either ask someone else more qualified, or start learning. Evaluating a company to equal good or evil and then judging all statements from them based on that rule leads to a lot of faulty thinking. There are people who have for the last two decades automatically assumed everything Google says is good (false), and everything Microsoft says is bad (also false). It leads people to fail to recognize that corporations act in self-interest as a whole, as they have one real mission: Profit. It leads people to fail to recognize that corporations are made up of people, who, while influenced by their compensation and bias and culture, do have their own views and opinions. And most importantly, it leads people to fail to recognize that corporations change over time, as their people, culture, and priorities shift.
- syshum 9y ago
  >Evaluating a company to equal good or evil and then judging all statements from them based on that rule leads to a lot of faulty thinking I am not evaluating a company. I am evaluating Oracle. >It leads people to fail to recognize that corporations act in self-interest as a whole, as they have one real mission: Profit and I already address why this is different for Oracle
  - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
    Oracle is a company. And your sole statement of why "Oracle is different" is because in your personal opinion, Oracle has never been on the right side of an issue, which is a very subjective view. (Not to mention the fact that it's near impossible for you to know of or evaluate every view ever expressed on any topic by Oracle as a company or any representative of Oracle.)
    - QAPereo 9y ago
      Oracle is a company like a tick is a person.

by syshum 9y ago

yahna 9y ago

No, this is unfair. THe oracle stance is based on what's best for Oracle, always. This is not immoral or evil, it is completely amoral. They might occasionally be on the right side. It's just coincidence though.

syshum 9y ago
For most companies you are correct, they are simply amoral profit seekers. Oracle however is a different breed that cross from simply being amoral to something decidedly different Even a cursory look at how they treat employees, customers, vendors, or anyone really will show this in clear detail that they operate differently then other amoral companies. Oracle is a special kind of evil IMO >>>They might occasionally be on the right side. Name one time they have been on the "right side" I can not. You are correct that a traditional amoral company will sometimes be on the "right side" and sometimes not. Oracle has a perfect record on being on the "wrong side" proving my point above
- plag 9y ago
  >>> Oracle has a perfect record on being on the "wrong side" proving my point above This might just be a huge list of coincidences :D
- yahna 9y ago
  My point was that you're anthropomorphizing the lawnmower when you say that oracle is evil.

ocdtrekkie 9y ago

I downvoted this not because I like Oracle, but because this is a terrible way to think. If you're not qualified to determine the value of a statement based on it's contents, either ask someone else more qualified, or start learning. Evaluating a company to equal good or evil and then judging all statements from them based on that rule leads to a lot of faulty thinking. There are people who have for the last two decades automatically assumed everything Google says is good (false), and everything Microsoft says is bad (also false). It leads people to fail to recognize that corporations act in self-interest as a whole, as they have one real mission: Profit. It leads people to fail to recognize that corporations are made up of people, who, while influenced by their compensation and bias and culture, do have their own views and opinions. And most importantly, it leads people to fail to recognize that corporations change over time, as their people, culture, and priorities shift.

syshum 9y ago
>Evaluating a company to equal good or evil and then judging all statements from them based on that rule leads to a lot of faulty thinking I am not evaluating a company. I am evaluating Oracle. >It leads people to fail to recognize that corporations act in self-interest as a whole, as they have one real mission: Profit and I already address why this is different for Oracle
- ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  Oracle is a company. And your sole statement of why "Oracle is different" is because in your personal opinion, Oracle has never been on the right side of an issue, which is a very subjective view. (Not to mention the fact that it's near impossible for you to know of or evaluate every view ever expressed on any topic by Oracle as a company or any representative of Oracle.)
  - QAPereo 9y ago
    Oracle is a company like a tick is a person.