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Admittedly, I thought about applying, but then I saw this on your footer of the website: "My foot stands on level ground; in the great assembly I will bless th

Admittedly, I thought about applying, but then I saw this on your footer of the website: "My foot stands on level ground; in the great assembly I will bless the LORD." - Psalm 26:12 I have a strong feeling that I would not be welcomed here, for I am not Christian and no intent to be.

cbg0 9y ago
You certainly wouldn't fit into the "no-drama office policy".
- occultist_throw 9y ago
  I know full well how to act in an office. If I talk about personal things, I keep it to networking, technology, and the like. I don't talk about: politics, religion. Some would argue that politics is of utmost importance - I would agree. Unless I am working with a lobbying firm in a technical capacity, I fail to see how that discussion wouldn't quickly become hostile. And in the end, it also has mostly detrimental effect in poisoning fellow colleagues' communication to you. If I see or become inadvertently involved in one of those 2 areas, I steer the conversation back to on-topic, or bow out of the conversation. I see no reason to alienate others with my personal practices.
grzm 9y ago
This is off-topic for this thread. If you're not interested in working for the company or don't think it would be a good fit for whatever reason, just don't apply. Same as someone calling out a tech stack they don't like: it's just what the Who is hiring? threads are for.
- occultist_throw 9y ago
  I fail to see the off-topicness of this. This is only 1 step removed from "We prefer only $religion here." Or another way to look at it, is "We dont like $your_religion." They aren't out-right saying that, but the dog-whistles are most certainly there, biblical quotes and all. No matter how you shake it (by preference or by refusal), it's coming mightily close to breaking federal law as cited here: https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/religion.cfm https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/religion.cfm I would understand if the organization was a church or religious group. But it seems to be pretty bog-standard tech shop. It, at absolute minimum, is a warning sign of potential religious discrimination. To put it bluntly, unless there's a religious component in the nature of the job, the very fact that religion is mentioned on their pages is at best off-topic, a warning sign to all, and at worst a potential sign of EEOC violations.
  - grzm 9y ago
    If the legality is what concerns you, fair enough, though I do think you're overreacting without further evidence. People are perfectly capable of holding beliefs and hire and work with people who share others. However, that is not how you presented it or are discussing further.
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naturalethic 9y ago
They explicitly state you do not have to be a Christian. Instead of settling on a strong feeling, do a little investigating for the facts.

cbg0 9y ago

You certainly wouldn't fit into the "no-drama office policy".

occultist_throw 9y ago
I know full well how to act in an office. If I talk about personal things, I keep it to networking, technology, and the like. I don't talk about: politics, religion. Some would argue that politics is of utmost importance - I would agree. Unless I am working with a lobbying firm in a technical capacity, I fail to see how that discussion wouldn't quickly become hostile. And in the end, it also has mostly detrimental effect in poisoning fellow colleagues' communication to you. If I see or become inadvertently involved in one of those 2 areas, I steer the conversation back to on-topic, or bow out of the conversation. I see no reason to alienate others with my personal practices.

grzm 9y ago

This is off-topic for this thread. If you're not interested in working for the company or don't think it would be a good fit for whatever reason, just don't apply. Same as someone calling out a tech stack they don't like: it's just what the Who is hiring? threads are for.

occultist_throw 9y ago
I fail to see the off-topicness of this. This is only 1 step removed from "We prefer only $religion here." Or another way to look at it, is "We dont like $your_religion." They aren't out-right saying that, but the dog-whistles are most certainly there, biblical quotes and all. No matter how you shake it (by preference or by refusal), it's coming mightily close to breaking federal law as cited here: https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/religion.cfm https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/religion.cfm I would understand if the organization was a church or religious group. But it seems to be pretty bog-standard tech shop. It, at absolute minimum, is a warning sign of potential religious discrimination. To put it bluntly, unless there's a religious component in the nature of the job, the very fact that religion is mentioned on their pages is at best off-topic, a warning sign to all, and at worst a potential sign of EEOC violations.
- grzm 9y ago
  If the legality is what concerns you, fair enough, though I do think you're overreacting without further evidence. People are perfectly capable of holding beliefs and hire and work with people who share others. However, that is not how you presented it or are discussing further.
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naturalethic 9y ago

They explicitly state you do not have to be a Christian. Instead of settling on a strong feeling, do a little investigating for the facts.