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Take your $45 and send a sample of your tap water to a water testing lab that mentions the word "estrogens" on their website.

eesmith 9y ago
I looked. I didn't find any local water testing lab with "estrogens" on their website. I found a water treatment company trying to sell RO and other point-of-use systems which had pointers to reports about hormones, pharmaceuticals, and other contaminants in the water, but they don't offer estrogen testing. FWIW, $45 at http://www.ackuritlabs.com/residential-testing/residential-analysis-packages/ http://www.ackuritlabs.com/residential-testing/residential-a... gives me either an E. coli survey or a filter survey for iron, pH, tannins, hardness, and turbidity. Perhaps you can do better than I did?
- fludlight 9y ago
  I found a reputable company that makes a ~$1k commercial scale kit in case you want to start a testing business[1]. Also a DIY scientific discussion that goes over my head[2]. Maybe give a random water testing lab a call? If that doesn't work try calling a non-corporate medical lab. [1] https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/home/industrial/mass-spectrometry/liquid-chromatography-mass-spectrometry-lc-ms/lc-ms-systems/lc-ms-application-solutions/lc-ms-hormone-testing-kit-water.html https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/home/industrial/mass-spec... [2] https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_there_a_solid_laboratory_test_that_exists_to_test_for_endocrine_disruptors_in_water_samples_taken_from_streams https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_there_a_solid_laborator...
  - eesmith 9y ago
    This is far away from the point of my response, which is that the original scenario is not a good justification for something like sci-hub. Regarding the testing, I was only looking at local Tallahassee water testing companies. This was an overly strict restriction of mine. The OP has not yet clarified what "chemicals that act like estrogens" means, so it's possible that [1] of yours may be too limited in what it tests for. FWIW, your [1] does not include the "Thermo Scientific Ultimate™ 3000/TSQ Vantage™ LC-MS/MS", with which it's designed to work. I am unable to find a price for that, but it looks expensive. As I've no problem with the statement "The consistently large MOEs and MOSs strongly suggest that prescribed and total estrogens that may potentially be present in drinking water in the United States are not causing adverse effects in U.S. residents, including sensitive subpopulations.", I will not be starting a testing business, as the temptation to market to fear is too high.

eesmith 9y ago

I looked. I didn't find any local water testing lab with "estrogens" on their website. I found a water treatment company trying to sell RO and other point-of-use systems which had pointers to reports about hormones, pharmaceuticals, and other contaminants in the water, but they don't offer estrogen testing. FWIW, $45 at http://www.ackuritlabs.com/residential-testing/residential-analysis-packages/ http://www.ackuritlabs.com/residential-testing/residential-a... gives me either an E. coli survey or a filter survey for iron, pH, tannins, hardness, and turbidity. Perhaps you can do better than I did?

fludlight 9y ago
I found a reputable company that makes a ~$1k commercial scale kit in case you want to start a testing business[1]. Also a DIY scientific discussion that goes over my head[2]. Maybe give a random water testing lab a call? If that doesn't work try calling a non-corporate medical lab. [1] https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/home/industrial/mass-spectrometry/liquid-chromatography-mass-spectrometry-lc-ms/lc-ms-systems/lc-ms-application-solutions/lc-ms-hormone-testing-kit-water.html https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/home/industrial/mass-spec... [2] https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_there_a_solid_laboratory_test_that_exists_to_test_for_endocrine_disruptors_in_water_samples_taken_from_streams https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_there_a_solid_laborator...
- eesmith 9y ago
  This is far away from the point of my response, which is that the original scenario is not a good justification for something like sci-hub. Regarding the testing, I was only looking at local Tallahassee water testing companies. This was an overly strict restriction of mine. The OP has not yet clarified what "chemicals that act like estrogens" means, so it's possible that [1] of yours may be too limited in what it tests for. FWIW, your [1] does not include the "Thermo Scientific Ultimate™ 3000/TSQ Vantage™ LC-MS/MS", with which it's designed to work. I am unable to find a price for that, but it looks expensive. As I've no problem with the statement "The consistently large MOEs and MOSs strongly suggest that prescribed and total estrogens that may potentially be present in drinking water in the United States are not causing adverse effects in U.S. residents, including sensitive subpopulations.", I will not be starting a testing business, as the temptation to market to fear is too high.