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So I should just write my application twice? That's not really a solution.

by Un1corn 9y ago

virtualwhys 9y ago
> So I should just write my application twice? No, write it thrice (need mobile web version as well).
- s73ver_ 9y ago
  If you're doing an app, why would you do mobile web?
  - KirinDave 9y ago
    Any sufficiently advanced mobile app will redo at least its onboarding flow in the web. Capturing acquisition funnel details over an app download flow is either impossible if you're ethical or shady as hell even if you're not. This inevitably leads to a copy of your settings and account management page ion the web. At that point, why NOT get people into a decent experience as fast as possible?
    - s73ver_ 9y ago
      I can't say I agree with that. I've worked on some pretty advanced apps, and none of them have had onboarding on the web.
      - KirinDave 9y ago
        How did you associate the results of ad campaign funnels with sign ups?
        s73ver_ 9y ago
        Both Google and Apple have ways to associate installs with referrals.
        KirinDave 9y ago
        Only via their branded ad funnels. Not arbitrarily.
s73ver_ 9y ago
It is if you care about your users. None of the cross platform toolkits, especially the ones that use JavaScript, are any good from a user standpoint.
- KirinDave 9y ago
  And I suppose that users here secretly hate VS Code, but still use it just to spite themselves.
KirinDave 9y ago
If it didn't work with React Native and the much richer Javascript/Typescript world, what makes you think that Go will magically make it better? I get that you like Go, logically (although emotionally, I can only feel confusion from such an idea). But no one has even remotely offered an idea what advantages Go brings to this table other than "I like it!" Which is cool, but I loathe it. So unless there are compelling things in this framework (hence my question) this seems like a great way to use worse tooling and an awkwardly shoehorned language to fail to accomplish exactly what other frameworks have failed to do.
- zghst 9y ago
  There's nothing wrong with exploration and improving language interop across platforms.
  - KirinDave 9y ago
    This isn't really answering the question though, is it? On the basis of language, Go is a regressive and under-performant pile that people seem to love largely because of its nostalgia factor. What about this framework helps to offset how awful Go is?
zghst 9y ago
I would say that React isn't a unique case if one feels this way. There are probably individual frameworks within your language community that translate to usable front-end code.

So I should just write my application twice? That's not really a solution.

virtualwhys 9y ago

> So I should just write my application twice? No, write it thrice (need mobile web version as well).

s73ver_ 9y ago
If you're doing an app, why would you do mobile web?
- KirinDave 9y ago
  Any sufficiently advanced mobile app will redo at least its onboarding flow in the web. Capturing acquisition funnel details over an app download flow is either impossible if you're ethical or shady as hell even if you're not. This inevitably leads to a copy of your settings and account management page ion the web. At that point, why NOT get people into a decent experience as fast as possible?
  - s73ver_ 9y ago
    I can't say I agree with that. I've worked on some pretty advanced apps, and none of them have had onboarding on the web.
    - KirinDave 9y ago
      How did you associate the results of ad campaign funnels with sign ups?
      - s73ver_ 9y ago
        Both Google and Apple have ways to associate installs with referrals.
        KirinDave 9y ago
        Only via their branded ad funnels. Not arbitrarily.

s73ver_ 9y ago

It is if you care about your users. None of the cross platform toolkits, especially the ones that use JavaScript, are any good from a user standpoint.

KirinDave 9y ago
And I suppose that users here secretly hate VS Code, but still use it just to spite themselves.

KirinDave 9y ago

If it didn't work with React Native and the much richer Javascript/Typescript world, what makes you think that Go will magically make it better? I get that you like Go, logically (although emotionally, I can only feel confusion from such an idea). But no one has even remotely offered an idea what advantages Go brings to this table other than "I like it!" Which is cool, but I loathe it. So unless there are compelling things in this framework (hence my question) this seems like a great way to use worse tooling and an awkwardly shoehorned language to fail to accomplish exactly what other frameworks have failed to do.

zghst 9y ago
There's nothing wrong with exploration and improving language interop across platforms.
- KirinDave 9y ago
  This isn't really answering the question though, is it? On the basis of language, Go is a regressive and under-performant pile that people seem to love largely because of its nostalgia factor. What about this framework helps to offset how awful Go is?

zghst 9y ago

I would say that React isn't a unique case if one feels this way. There are probably individual frameworks within your language community that translate to usable front-end code.