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Why the downvote ? The person is polite and genuinly doesn't know something. Just answer. Besides, a "document database", like many term in computing, can be

Why the downvote ? The person is polite and genuinly doesn't know something. Just answer. Besides, a "document database", like many term in computing, can be very confusing. Come on, we all had to be explained what the difference is between a software server vs hardware. This is not different.

tannhaeuser 9y ago
> Why the downvote? Smells like ring voting: 4 downvotes in < 0.5 min? @dang?
- staunch 9y ago
  Any post having to do with YC, Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Apple, etc are voting ringed to hell by their thousands of employees. As the site has grown, HN has become a bit of a mouthpiece for large organizations through these de facto voting rings. Best idea I have is for HN to add a profile field like: "Organizations: [google]" which would prevent voting on any Google-related submissions. It could also add a disclaimer in each comment of these submissions, so users wouldn't have to remember to do that.
  - tannhaeuser 9y ago
    > HN has become a bit of a mouthpiece for large organizations In don't mind (in fact, appreciate) this aspect of HN as long as it's done openly and civilized. > Best idea I have is for HN to add a profile field like: "Organizations: [google]" which would prevent voting on any Google-related submissions. It could also add a disclaimer in each comment these submissions, so users wouldn't have to remember to do that. That's a brilliant idea.
  - ben_jones 9y ago
    It isn't even malicious - just a natural tendency people have. Like favoriting your friends picture on instagram even if it doesn't look too flattering. I love that suggestion, but how would you validate it? Registering company domains would be an exhaustive process.
    - zzzcpan 9y ago
      Or just punish big brand submissions slightly, to make it fairer for everyone else.
    - staunch 9y ago
      Agreed that it's not malicious. But it is insidious and should be prevented. There's only a half dozen large Silicon Valley orgs worth worrying about. Maybe a dozen domains.
  - bryanlarsen 9y ago
    All of the listed corporations also have a large number of fanboys and haters, so are going to attract a large number of votes even if employees abstain.
  - stephenr 9y ago
    Changing or removing the downvote button would be a simpler, better fix.
- sametmax 9y ago
  French person here. What's ring voting ?
  - tannhaeuser 9y ago
    > What's ring voting? Coordinated up- or downvoting from multiple accounts
- sctb 9y ago
  It doesn't look that way. We're happy to investigate these cases if you feel there's something fishy going on, but the guidelines ask you to please email us at hn@ycombinator.com so we can leave the discussions intact. > Please don't accuse others of astroturfing or shillage. Email us instead and we'll look into it. > Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

tannhaeuser 9y ago

> Why the downvote? Smells like ring voting: 4 downvotes in < 0.5 min? @dang?

staunch 9y ago
Any post having to do with YC, Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Apple, etc are voting ringed to hell by their thousands of employees. As the site has grown, HN has become a bit of a mouthpiece for large organizations through these de facto voting rings. Best idea I have is for HN to add a profile field like: "Organizations: [google]" which would prevent voting on any Google-related submissions. It could also add a disclaimer in each comment of these submissions, so users wouldn't have to remember to do that.
- tannhaeuser 9y ago
  > HN has become a bit of a mouthpiece for large organizations In don't mind (in fact, appreciate) this aspect of HN as long as it's done openly and civilized. > Best idea I have is for HN to add a profile field like: "Organizations: [google]" which would prevent voting on any Google-related submissions. It could also add a disclaimer in each comment these submissions, so users wouldn't have to remember to do that. That's a brilliant idea.
- ben_jones 9y ago
  It isn't even malicious - just a natural tendency people have. Like favoriting your friends picture on instagram even if it doesn't look too flattering. I love that suggestion, but how would you validate it? Registering company domains would be an exhaustive process.
  - zzzcpan 9y ago
    Or just punish big brand submissions slightly, to make it fairer for everyone else.
  - staunch 9y ago
    Agreed that it's not malicious. But it is insidious and should be prevented. There's only a half dozen large Silicon Valley orgs worth worrying about. Maybe a dozen domains.
- bryanlarsen 9y ago
  All of the listed corporations also have a large number of fanboys and haters, so are going to attract a large number of votes even if employees abstain.
- stephenr 9y ago
  Changing or removing the downvote button would be a simpler, better fix.
sametmax 9y ago
French person here. What's ring voting ?
- tannhaeuser 9y ago
  > What's ring voting? Coordinated up- or downvoting from multiple accounts
sctb 9y ago
It doesn't look that way. We're happy to investigate these cases if you feel there's something fishy going on, but the guidelines ask you to please email us at hn@ycombinator.com so we can leave the discussions intact. > Please don't accuse others of astroturfing or shillage. Email us instead and we'll look into it. > Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html