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> The US is a big, highly varied country I hear this excuse over and over and over. Do you somehow think the US is unique in this situation? Do you think Aus

by grecy 9y ago

> The US is a big, highly varied country I hear this excuse over and over and over. Do you somehow think the US is unique in this situation? Do you think Australia is homogeneous? (way, way more per-capita immigration) Do you think if you remove those "ghettos" from the US stats AND the stats of other first world countries you will suddenly see the US leap ahead?

dmix 9y ago
> Do you think Australia is homogeneous? (way, way more per-capita immigration) There have been plenty of studies that show immigration to poor US neighbourhoods reduces violence [1]. I don't fully understand what you're suggesting here? I'm from Toronto, we have tons of legal immigrants and while some carry violence over from their countries (gun violence is a big problem in Somali [2] and Jamaican enclaves here) but otherwise it's extremely safe, likely thanks to immigrants not in spite of them. The article I linked even suggests the best solution they found in Minnesota and Toronto for reducing gun violence was hiring Somalis to go into Somali neighbourhoods to increase inter-community reporting and educate kids - which supports what I said about approaching this on a cultural basis. Not as a general 'gun problem'. > Do you think if you remove those "ghettos" from the US stats AND the stats of other first world countries you will suddenly see the US leap ahead? I can't tell if you're trolling or not... I tried to answer your other highly suggestive questions already but I don't think I could take any more of these seriously. [1] https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Immigration_and_crime https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Immigration_and_crime [2] https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/why-so-many-somali-canadians-who-go-west-end-up-dead/article4365992/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com& https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/why-so-many-s...

by grecy 9y ago

dmix 9y ago

> Do you think Australia is homogeneous? (way, way more per-capita immigration) There have been plenty of studies that show immigration to poor US neighbourhoods reduces violence [1]. I don't fully understand what you're suggesting here? I'm from Toronto, we have tons of legal immigrants and while some carry violence over from their countries (gun violence is a big problem in Somali [2] and Jamaican enclaves here) but otherwise it's extremely safe, likely thanks to immigrants not in spite of them. The article I linked even suggests the best solution they found in Minnesota and Toronto for reducing gun violence was hiring Somalis to go into Somali neighbourhoods to increase inter-community reporting and educate kids - which supports what I said about approaching this on a cultural basis. Not as a general 'gun problem'. > Do you think if you remove those "ghettos" from the US stats AND the stats of other first world countries you will suddenly see the US leap ahead? I can't tell if you're trolling or not... I tried to answer your other highly suggestive questions already but I don't think I could take any more of these seriously. [1] https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Immigration_and_crime https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Immigration_and_crime [2] https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/why-so-many-somali-canadians-who-go-west-end-up-dead/article4365992/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com& https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/why-so-many-s...