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"the Trump administration violated federal rulemaking laws" "The court challenge concerns the International Entrepreneur Rule, a program instituted under forme

by danjoc 9y ago

"the Trump administration violated federal rulemaking laws" "The court challenge concerns the International Entrepreneur Rule, a program instituted under former President Barack Obama" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_entrepreneur_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_entrepreneur_rul... "this rule does not need to be approved by Congress." It seems like VCs were unable to get a law passed, so they tried to use their influence over the president to slip one past the democratic process. That seems dishonest. I'm glad to see president Trump standing up to that sort of intimidation. If they want a law, they need to participate in the democratic process like everyone else.

pavlov 9y ago
Doesn’t “federal rulemaking laws” specifically mean the laws that govern this kind of executive regulation that is not actual law? I don’t see the contradiction. Also, what intimidation?
terravion 9y ago
No actually, a lot of immigration is administrative (as opposed to legislative). The congress has delegated wide authority in this to the executive branch. However, for the executive to exercise this authority there is a whole body of procedure that all administrative agencies have to follow so that it isn't capricious rules that change with the executive's mood. Not following the administrative procedures is what's a subversion of the democratic process (i.e. the executive is exceeding the authority granted to it by our representatives.)
- danjoc 9y ago
  >rules that change with the executive's mood That seems like a mis-characterization of the situation. Trump's mood hasn't changed. Making major changes to immigration policy and trade deals was the foundation of Trump's presidential campaign.
  - terravion 9y ago
    The law, that Trump and every other president is sworn to uphold, says the administrative regulations are supposed to be created only following the legislatively mandated rule making process. While Trump's appointees are free to initiate a new rule making process--as for example his FCC commissioner is doing to the chagrin of most HN commenters on net neutrality--he's not free to just decide to change administrative regulations absent the appropriate procedures and evidence even if he campaigned on that rule change. If the case is as the NVCA claims--where the administrative procedures act wasn't followed, I hope they win.
    - danjoc 9y ago
      >the administrative regulations are supposed to be created only following the legislatively mandated rule making process. The administration hasn't created new rules. They've delayed rules that have not yet taken effect. >While Trump's appointees are free to initiate a new rule making process--as for example his FCC commissioner is doing to the chagrin of most HN commenters on net neutrality Which the FCC did by blocking rules before they were to take effect. Sounds like the same strategy to me.

by danjoc 9y ago

pavlov 9y ago

Doesn’t “federal rulemaking laws” specifically mean the laws that govern this kind of executive regulation that is not actual law? I don’t see the contradiction. Also, what intimidation?

terravion 9y ago

No actually, a lot of immigration is administrative (as opposed to legislative). The congress has delegated wide authority in this to the executive branch. However, for the executive to exercise this authority there is a whole body of procedure that all administrative agencies have to follow so that it isn't capricious rules that change with the executive's mood. Not following the administrative procedures is what's a subversion of the democratic process (i.e. the executive is exceeding the authority granted to it by our representatives.)

danjoc 9y ago
>rules that change with the executive's mood That seems like a mis-characterization of the situation. Trump's mood hasn't changed. Making major changes to immigration policy and trade deals was the foundation of Trump's presidential campaign.
- terravion 9y ago
  The law, that Trump and every other president is sworn to uphold, says the administrative regulations are supposed to be created only following the legislatively mandated rule making process. While Trump's appointees are free to initiate a new rule making process--as for example his FCC commissioner is doing to the chagrin of most HN commenters on net neutrality--he's not free to just decide to change administrative regulations absent the appropriate procedures and evidence even if he campaigned on that rule change. If the case is as the NVCA claims--where the administrative procedures act wasn't followed, I hope they win.
  - danjoc 9y ago
    >the administrative regulations are supposed to be created only following the legislatively mandated rule making process. The administration hasn't created new rules. They've delayed rules that have not yet taken effect. >While Trump's appointees are free to initiate a new rule making process--as for example his FCC commissioner is doing to the chagrin of most HN commenters on net neutrality Which the FCC did by blocking rules before they were to take effect. Sounds like the same strategy to me.